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  1. #1

    In game "How to counter heroes" guides

    Hello all,
    So my idea is to have some in game guides about how to counter each hero: with what items and with what heroes. Those guides should be put either in the current tutorial,second tutorial or youtube videos which you can watch in HoNTV, Why video guides you may ask? Well because there are 100+ heroes now and written guides for all of them will result in wall of text which most of the new players wont bother to read and can just open the HoNTV and watch the guides after a bad game losingto certain hero .
    Why I made this suggestion? Because I am sick of losing games only because some people of my team don't know how to counter certain heroes and I sometimes fail too :/ .
    So I hope S2 can make the effort to make such guides or if they can't they can ask some of the good mentors in Epoch clan to make them .

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    Maybe a quick doubleclick on their icon and we get a:


    Strong against: Low hp targets, channelers that rely on shrunken head, people going alone
    Weak against: Wards, void talisman, high hp targets.

    Something like that, I don't know.

  3. #3
    Dw is easy to explain but i think u make a good point since when i was new i just found pebbles and dw OP cause they could 1-shot heroes

  4. #4
    Yup. Some heroes can be countered easier than others but new players will also have to see how to actually do it on some video.
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    bump
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

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    bump
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

  7. #7
    Any opinions?
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

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    It seems like a good and easy idea to implement, but with so many heroes and combinations it wouldn't be worth there time unless you write up all the counter guides yourself. Would be cool to hover at the pick screen on a hero to show good lane partners and weak against x hero's

  9. #9
    Hmm yes you got one good idea there. Thanks for the support man
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

  10. #10
    Hmm someone voted for the 2nd option but didn't explain? o.O -.-'
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

  11. #11
    I agree. There isn't enough text space in hero guides to properly format how to play that hero AND how to deal with certain problematic heroes.

    Played a game before with a RA with the most GPM of anyone in the game, but made us lose as he stacked Behemoth Hearts against a Predator = HUGE MISTAKE. He had 0 armour items.

    I mean, people who cba reading won't ever read, but it would behefit the playerbase.

    A lot of items for heroe builds are situational but there is not enough text space as I said above to explain WHY they're situations.

    It makes me cry when carries want to complete their uber carry item of proness before a shrunken head. They then get nuked/cc down and cry at someone else for their stupid death.


    My counter proposal is to add a section to in-game hero guides that is dedicated to counter item/skill/play building with the ability to explain why.
    A wall of text means poor writing/formatting or not enough text space. If a player wants their guide to be written they should present it clearly.
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    Thanks about your supprotand your opinion. YOu are very right about carries who jsut forget about shrunken and say "noob team"!!
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Rkey View Post

    Strong against: Low hp targets, channelers that rely on shrunken head, people going alone
    Weak against: Wards, void talisman, high hp targets.
    this. somewhere has to be enough space for it. bad players would probably not read it anyway, but there will be a lot of ppl that will benefit from it (me too )
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  14. #14
    ^Yup that would be good idea for shorter version of the guide while in picking phase but with path to the real guide which should be in Herodex with better explanation(maybe video and not wall of text).
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

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    bump
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

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    bump
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

  17. #17
    No please. We have many posts abouth how to counter heros.
    and we don't need in game. don't it's hard use the post.
    Check that suggestion from my friend!
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  18. #18
    Post?What you mean?Forums?Dude most of the hon community haven't even heard of forums -.-
    "Peace if possible, truth at all costs."
    "Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
    "I feel much freer now that I am certain the pope is the Antichrist."
    -Martin Luther
    "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. "
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt
    “Banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies”
    -Thomas Jefferson

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