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    Dawz called out by TDM MoonMeander

    After discussing the brackets on Moon's Stream at 2:45pm ET: Moon called out Dawz for rigging the brackets to get ITS GOSU team (TIG) on a easier path because TDM and Fnatic Raidcall have embarrased TIG in previous It's Gosu Opens.

    Moon says its is Bias.

    Moon also stated that Zyori had a discussion with Dawz about it in the past because he was mad about its gosu getting stomped.

    May I ask that Dawz explains himself/herself on how the brackets are made up and why teams like TDM feel this way?

    EDIT* Moon also doesn't like that he can't stream so that HONCAST can have more viewers. He mentioned okay so Dawz makes up the streaming rules and makes bias brackets great. 3:03 EST. Thanks.

    Dawz- Moon said stop this monopoly ****.

    EDIT* The people have spoken. It is clear that we want more POV and more streaming options. Please look at this poll IG and HONCAST and understand what it represents.
    Last edited by egodave; 04-22-2012 at 03:38 PM.
    Don't be jealous.

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    Who cares?

    IG is pretty much the only organization that still runs cash tournaments in NA so let them do what they want.

    That and I'm sure nobody wants to give any money to the little kids that are tdm.

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    wow, moonmeander called someone out. Why not drop some g's and dance.

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    ROFL, so suddenly moons not allowed to stream even with delay anymore, wp Dawz_...
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    mad i have the love of my life, own a house, and am moving into a 10 million dollar townhome? yeah you mad, fuk im sexy, fuk
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    Riser's a decent guy - I've seen him troll a bit in TMM but I feel that's because he was being pressured by franzii to do so.

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    LOL. Invite me to skype with moon on his stream and we can talk about this instead. I have never made the brackets easier for Team It's Gosu in any tournament that's ever been from our organization.

    Also, we're not trying to give anyone a monopoly. It makes total sense that when both we and our sponsors are streaming, all publicity should go to us and them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawZ_ View Post
    LOL. Invite me to skype with moon on his stream and we can talk about this instead.
    We would, but Moon isn't allowed to stream during your tournament

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maif View Post
    We would, but Moon isn't allowed to stream during your tournament
    I didn't say now. We can do it afterwards.

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    If you have the better product the viewers will come.

    I, and obviously many other prefer hearing the team communicate with each other.

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    Pew has been putting TiG against the easier teams in all its gosu tournaments he did the seeding for. So it's nothing really new. They always were put against the easier/weaker teams on purpose to get into the finals/semifinals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DooMFiSTER View Post
    Pew has been putting TiG against the easier teams in all its gosu tournaments he did the seeding for. So it's nothing really new. They always were put against the easier/weaker teams on purpose to get into the finals/semifinals.
    Thank you for this information. Zyori is backing up Dawz as well which is understandable. HonCast believes they deserve the viewership for the later stages in the tournament. MsMia informed everyone in HONCAST they can leave if they don't agree with Zyori or Dawz_ - The only way to not have to deal with Bias or monopoly on these types of issues is for TDM or whatever team to have their own tournament and choose their own rules.
    Don't be jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourchan View Post
    If you have the better product the viewers will come.

    I, and obviously many other prefer hearing the team communicate with each other.
    My major issue is not that I enjoy Moon's stream more(which during competitive matches is basically 300x the competitive insight of any Honcast cast, numbers completely real and verified with scientific fact, which is what I just enjoy more) but that yesterday streaming was fine, and today it isn't. Stick with one or the other. Or change it for next week. Not during the middle of a tournament.

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    Honcast apparently doesn't care; they let them stream other tournaments, so I don't see why Dawz_ is saying that they do care.
    Those who post the most often have the least to say.

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    The main problem we have is that us in Heroes of Newerth have no color commentators, we only have play-by-play casters so we never get any deep analysis of picks/play and that is why there's a high demand of wanting to hear the players rather than the casters cause they just convey the game to viewers without depth.

    The duo of a play-by-play and a color commentator is the standard in almost all Sports/eSports broadcasting.
    Last edited by PR0SPECT`; 04-21-2012 at 04:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PR0SPECT` View Post
    The main problem we have is that us in Heroes of Newerth have no color commentators, we only have play-by-play casters so we never get any deep analysis of picks/play and that is why there's a high demand of wanting to hear the players rather than the casters cause they just convey the game to viewers without depth.

    The combo of a play-by-play and a color commentator is the standard in almost all Sports/eSports broadcasting, I can only speak for myself but I think that is the major thing lacking right now.
    BreakyCPK has already commented on this - Let me summarize - Zyori was able to be consistent. Other PRO players were offered the spot but they don't have time. Honcast didn't want to pay the pro players so we have to casters vs any color.
    Don't be jealous.

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    Peterpandam wanted to be the tig caster but he was turned down, just sayin. And if you really just CAN'T get a caster free, just give them like 100 bucks a month and all the kids will jump on it.

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    people like Moon over HoNcast
    2bad for HoNcast

    let moon stream

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    HONCAST going down and lagging for the semi-finals again..... Please ITS GOSU and other tourney admins allow others to stream. Be honest.
    Don't be jealous.

  18. #18
    From laggcast to radiocast to slideshowcast.. ****ing amazing! WP

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    this lag. wheres moonstream?

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    this poll is stupid and biased. we all players and ANY OTHER casters to cover day 1, round of 64 through round of 8 content. The honcast/ig streams take prio on the semis and finals.. I think thats more than fair.

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