I'm not arguing that none should be paid, but in order to get paid you actually have to have someone willing to pay you. And most recreational activities are not paid because none is willing to pay people to exercise them. I'm trying to show you that there is no correlation between putting down effort, time, devotion and all the other fancy words you choose with any form of monetary gain unless there is someone willing to pay you for exercising that activity. I've had to deal with people who spent years in for example arts or literary institutions coming out in the real world not being able to sell one book or painting, then coming to me asking for grants in order for them to continue being able to sit at home painting or writing books. It's delusional, the world doesn't work that way.
I don't think it's very constructive proving any business prowess of mine to you considering you believe the importance of organisational structures and businessmodels are just a part of some abstract philosophical belief I seem to have. LOL.
I think I hit a nerve with calling progamers out as greedy seeing as the rest of your post is mostly based on the fallacy of argument from authority. "You don't know anything unless you've been one!"-bullshit, as if this discussion is new, I've heard the same tiresome arguments for the last 15 years. eSport is still not very well rooted in our culture and it is still not considered to be more than a pasttime. Whatever you believe to "work" clearly isn't seeing as the empirical data shows it doesn't.
To S2: Never forget that the community is what pays your bills. Listen to what people have to say and take that into consideration. Be better at following up on things that you start. Don't ask for people to give you input and then just ignore it when they do. Keep the community well updated. It's alot easier to accept delay if you are informed about it. Consider focusing a lot more on balancing/changing the current hero pool instead of just pumping out more imbalanced heroes.
Couldn't agree more.
I has no money but i love this game can i donate my body?
I'll wait till the end of this, and depending on where we are, I'll throw down $350.
We're now at 624$ Again thanks to all who donated or showed their support in general!
Remember that all the money will go 100% to the prize pools of It's GoSu's tournaments. S2 has promised to match whatever amount we are able to raise so let's do this!
Probably 6 months ago, or so, before the exodus, they had ample time to get stuff in order with legions of teams whining about the same balance issues. They did nothing, so I don't feel bad that almost everyone who is worth anything put HoN on the backburner. The game hasn't been properly balanced, the competitors are met with trashy prize pools, so what do you expect to happen?
I would laugh my ass of is some billionaire somehow ended up donating 1mil to prizepool and s2 had to match that.
Did this money ever get put to use? Or for that matter, did S2 ever match the amount of money donated? B/c if not I want part of that money.
Yeap, they're in the prizepool for our May tournaments, as promised!
Donations are not going to save HoN. We need more events and tournaments. Top players need a reason to be good at HoN.
This might be a bit farfetched but wouldn't be possible to merge dota and hon (maybe LoL as well) to create an enourmous MOBA scene, similar to the fighting scene where the competitive players play and compete in a lot of the games.
Some of the mechanics in each games are different (just like the fighting games) but they're basically the same in the end.
Then there's the problem with pride amongst each of the games community...