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  1. #81
    Judgement and disipline are probably bigger factors than intelligence. The most popular 1500 level throws- running up mid, not warding, feeding during the laning phase- are the result of sacrificing chance to win later for fun now(they just want to fight!).

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    Lol does shadymelonzz looks like he has a high IQ? Probably a 1300 has a higher IQ than him

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Voldemort` View Post
    Wat? It's impossible to calculate your MMR since there are too many unknown variables to take into account. If you simply ask people their IQ in regards with their current MMR rating, you'd get no real result. Merely a false interpretation of connections which could be translated in numrous different ways. Since people can be smurfing, getting boosts etc. you'd also get a lot of statistically anomalies.

    Simply put, IQ is just a quotient derived from tests to assess intelligence a kind of intelligence, when in reality there's a lot of ways to be intelligent in. I can't see any connection with the two. Mozart was a genius when it comes to music, but I doubt he'd have a great career being a soccerplayer. Both different types of intelligence.

    All in all, the tests mostly used in standard IQ tests can't be in any way applied to HoN.
    In other words; smurfing is stupid :-)

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    Really? Really? No one bothered to look, and see that it was Mojo that started this thread? And it got to 4+ pages? Really? You've all failed.
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    Sure, the higher the IQ the faster it'll take to learn something new but in reality HoN takes experience and reaction time. To master the basics of HoN -- crowd control, map awareness, hero roles, carrying, heroes -- requires time that eventually turns into experience. You could be very intelligent and know a lot about HoN, but if your reaction time is too slow, then you will remain at a lower MMR.

    Other things affect gameplay as well. One main factor in how well you play is your mindset; if you're angry you'll definitely do a lot worse while being chill will help you to manage situations.
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    Am I doing this right?

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    1700 mmr ~ , 2500 games~ , 0.8kdr~ , IQ from 125 to 130 in euro standard

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    IQ from 125 to 130 in euro standard

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    IQ from 125 to 130

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  7. #87
    I've got that IQ of a lima bean, just like Rocky.
    No match for me. Can't speak for anyone else. I believe the will to improve and check your own play rather than your teammates makes you better. Not IQ.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Rikomi View Post
    Am I doing this right?
    yeah...100% poor Eu's

  9. #89
    Being smart helps in hon.

  10. #90
    It's good to be fast and accurate at logical thinking, but it's certainly not the only factor.

  11. #91
    Yeah..if higher IQ = bigger mmr, I think I should be at the top, alas that is not the case..(I study Applied Chemistry and Biotechnology..).
    Sure it is true to some degree but mostly it comes down to practice and good eye-hand coordination + willing to learn all the heroes and skills(this goes under practice).
    Being smarter only helps you learn this game faster but will not make you a pro.

  12. #92
    Scored 7 out of 10 in the norwegian army AE test( some sort of IQ test with words, math and patterns etc) Only like 4% gets 9 of 9, the average is 4 of 9.

    Don't know what my IQ is though

    I'm 1700+ mmr on my main(which is above average I think?) But then again, my irl friend who scored 5 out of 9 is the same mmr as I am

    So I don't think IQ has anything particular connection to being good at HoN, but someone is better than others at different things. Someone might be 1900+mmr in HoN, and others are pro counter strike players.

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    It is in my uneducated opinion that intelligence can help a person achieve a high MMR but it isn't the greatest factor in determining your MMR. So while there may be correlation between one's intelligence and one's MMR, it isn't anything to call home about.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Beuneri View Post
    This.

    If a person is unable to understand why he is losing and what he is doing wrong, he will never get out of the 1200-1600 bracket.

    I believe acknowledging that you made an error is far beyond 90% of the people in the WORLD , people over 1800 , 100% addmited at some time that they f***d up the whole game [in an instance] , and learnt from that , but it's merely a factor.

    I guess finding out what's the human-formula for being a perfect hon player can only be found by discussing with people with different points of views ,because the elements involved far surpass the amount of elements one can think of , let's say , the beforementioned predisposition to not admit mistakes is not a problem for me , but there are people with over 2000 games who still don't do stuff different , [ better ,if not optimal] , even if the required information has been provided to them.

  15. #95
    Doubt it, I'd say MMR is mostly based on
    • Game experience
    • If you queue solo or as a team

    Sure, IQ might have some impact, but I guess its influence is minor in comparison.
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    Whoever said IQ was an accurate measure of intelligence to begin with? Because the way most IQ's are measured, it really is quite flawed, and if you did some research into it, you would see why.
    In any matter, I could imagine that professional chess players aren't always the brightest, but certainly if you do something long enough and dedicate yourself to something you will get good at it. Even the scronniest nerd can become a body builder if he goes to the gym for 10 years.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by fenrixx View Post
    Scored 7 out of 10 in the norwegian army AE test( some sort of IQ test with words, math and patterns etc) Only like 4% gets 9 of 9, the average is 4 of 9.
    9 out of 9 here. Oh, and it's the upper 2%.

    That test was piss easy though, and tells more about the norwegian army's standards than anything else.

  18. #98
    Put me in some of these 2000 mmr games with my 1500 mmr and i will guarantee you in 10 matches i will fit well. The problem is, Playing 1500 all the time with other players in the same level will not improve the skill as if I got placed with serious gamers. I watch Honcast and I see what they do from ganking, counter warding, baiting and other things that we all do but in a more challenging way. The highest mmr I reached was 1750 and from what I saw when I was 1680+ games were getting more serious especially if i was the brown one with 1700 mmr.

    TL;DR: some 1500 players can fit in 2000 mmr games if they were given a chance.

  19. #99
    I somehow doubt it. Being good at hon is more like a Specialty. You can play this game hours on end, get amazingly good but you still cant solve basic algebra. Just like an expert plumber would not know a thing about electricity. A NASCAR driver getting behind the wheel of a semi. A normal mode player joining a casual mode tournament.

    Just because you are good at one thing, does not mean you are another.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by golvellius View Post
    I think a better correlation would be the inverse relationship between Hon Ranking and Personal success in the real world.
    Wouldn't it be better to have a 1300mmr and be a paid professional or a 2000 mmr couch potato at the parents house?
    No ****, but it's not always true. I have seen people with 3k games played that are still under 1550 mmr. That means they have played more than me in beta and post beta, yet they still play far worse than I do. A better correlation would be between number of games played and personal success IRL. I highly doubt that somone with 5k games played at 1550 mmr is doing better than somone wtih 5k games and 1850 mmr (as your statement implies). Experience does NOT always equal success, intelligence and talent play a role.

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