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    100% dominated my lane, the other lanes feed miserably

    And you're supposed to able to carry yourself out? Yeah I don't think so.

    I play slither go bot lane with WS, against armadon and scout

    We completely shut them out killing armadon i think 4 times scout twice, we get the first tower.

    Mid dev loses mid to flint, whenver he ganks, he goes top against magmus and androm and feeds. He goes on to not land a single grab outside the laning phase.

    Top lane panda and voodoo feed endlessly, lose tower, feed some more

    By the time teamfights actually start magmus has a super early pk, Flint has a fcking charged hammer.

    To those people who say " derp you can carry yourself out if you're good!" No, no you cannot, i can't micromanage all the lanes


    Seeing as how no one seems to read anything beyond the original post before posting something that is irrelevant, ill post it here.

    No where does it say im a pro, no where does it say i think I should be a 1900 ranked player. I should be in the 1600 bracket I'm currently 1568. The margin of skill is not large enough for me to to "stomp" my way to 1620~ and just low enough to be frustratingly impossible to carry a team of bads.
    Last edited by Oh_My_Gah; 04-01-2012 at 07:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine_Cloak View Post
    It is not possible for a 1600 level player to carry himself out of the 1500s with luck like that.

    Luckily, that's not how luck works. Eventually you'll get decent, or even just average teams. The enemy has just as bad a chance to get teammates like that, and you'll carry yourself up to where you belong. I've been scraping my way up from the 1300s for 2 weeks or so now. It's not a speedy process, but you're looking for progress. You aren't going to be a 1600/1700/1800 player over night. It takes time.

    Watch competitive play, maintain a good attitude with teammates even when they're *******s, and for god's sake: don't lose at the pick screen. A hero like Midas or Torturer is a great pick up in almost any line-up. Even if you have to go into a sidelane, they're still amazing heroes. If you have the will power, you can carry teams repeatedly with heroes like those two.
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    yes, thats why you pick mag, behe, cd, anyone with sweet control.

    you can't pick swiftblade because hes too single target, unless you've got an insane edge on farm then you'll do it np

    Hag is another example


    Polly for Ps

    Keeper will single handedly win a game while his team feeds, since they'll be too busy feasting on the noobs he'll rax them

    did i mention i carry myself out of 1500s with voodoo? so e z with aoe stun + curse

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    Go gank mid?

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    You are no god among noobs. I watched 13min of your game, and not once did you port anywhere but bot lane. Even when your teammates were 4 top and pushing, you just ported bot to continue farming again. Not only that, but you never carried a tp to help other lanes.

    Thats why you´re stuck on 1500. When you learn teamplay and start carrying your team, by being there at every teamfight, making a difference or turning around a situation with a tp and get 2 kills. Not by farming a lane as ghost marcher slither, thinking you can carry it late against a fed flint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trigshady View Post
    You are no god among noobs. I watched 13min of your game, and not once did you port anywhere but bot lane. Even when your teammates were 4 top and pushing, you just ported bot to continue farming again. Not only that, but you never carried a tp to help other lanes.

    Thats why you´re stuck on 1500. When you learn teamplay and start carrying your team, by being there at every teamfight, making a difference or turning around a situation with a tp and get 2 kills. Not by farming a lane as ghost marcher slither, thinking you can carry it late against a fed flint.
    this.

    if you wanna get outta the 1500s, you gotta stick your neck out and help them. Your knowledge and experience can turn the tides of battle.

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    Happens all the time. Recently I was Flux laning with a mag against an empath/sw. I was 5-0 in as many minutes.

    Armadon up top had freefarm as the whole team came down to stop us. He ended up with two 350g regen rings, no boots, no lifetube, no helm at 25 or so mins.

    To make matters worse, the only teamfight he came into was one of the last ones when I noticed he hadn't leveled snot.

    This is why I don't play my main account on Sundays lol.

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    I was playing CD at legion bot lane with Slither against Scout and Gemini
    We completely shut`em out killing Gemini about 6 times and Scout twice, obviously we got their tower early.
    At this time top Tremble and Chtuluphant was something about 0-4-0 each one, and a mid NH lvl 7 with pounce lvl2 and a 4lvl passive skill said that he`s going to build CODEX. Midguy then died few times and went forests till lvl 10 (1st point in smoke bomb).
    nuff said
    NH didnt got his codex btw in this game

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    Team game.
    That team feed you in your lane.
    Dominated/Owned - Feed/Failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trigshady View Post
    You are no god among noobs. I watched 13min of your game, and not once did you port anywhere but bot lane. Even when your teammates were 4 top and pushing, you just ported bot to continue farming again. Not only that, but you never carried a tp to help other lanes.

    Thats why you´re stuck on 1500. When you learn teamplay and start carrying your team, by being there at every teamfight, making a difference or turning around a situation with a tp and get 2 kills. Not by farming a lane as ghost marcher slither, thinking you can carry it late against a fed flint.
    this

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    You just dont know how to organise your team thats all and you dont help them.No one likes to be abandomed just cause someone won their lane and dont give a **** about other lanes

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    Quote Originally Posted by TACretAw View Post
    Go gank mid?
    This right here. It is a team game. If your lane is already won then at least one of you could go help the other lanes if not both. People need to gamk mid more from sidelanes.

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    slither wins vs arma and scout on his own!

    for future games:
    if you play your lane and dominate them but the other lanes are going poorly, you should try and help them! instead you stayed in your already won lane and talked trash to your team mates...

    go and gank mid or the other lane or you can even swap the lane entirely who has problems (gank them as two, kill both, lost lane tp's to your won lane)

    also: if you have just a bad lane settup in general, try to end the laning phase as quickly as possible and start taking towers/forcing team fights.

    sometimes a big mistake in the early laning phase just puts you in such a disadvantage that there is no comming back, without help from your team mates. if nobody wants to help you, try leaving the lane and make sure to win the other two (they are freefarming your lane anyway, at least like that they dont get kills ontop of that aswell)

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    A Slither and WS won completely dominates their lane but won't gank for other lanes.

    That might be the problem.

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    Yeah I agree. You're not going to win the game by only winning a lane, no matter how hard you stomp it. It doesen't work like that. What I do is always keep tps to push/counterpush and help other lanes to fix their feeding issue. As much as I hate to admit, there's really no point at criticizing your team for their mistakes; you're better off actually doing something to fix them yourself. Gank other lanes if needed, get wards yourself, upgrade the courier, backdoor if needed... In the end what matters is to win the game and if you can't count on your team to do things you'll have to take things into your own hands in any way you can.
    Last edited by zstarkey42; 04-01-2012 at 05:38 PM.

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    noone said you can carry any game, there are some that just cant be won.
    but on average if you are better you will rise in rating, since the enemy team has an even higher chance to be full of retards than your team. (that is if you yourself are not retarded...)

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    Slither can totally stomp even vs Flint, if you're truely above your bracket. Trick is to snowball, not just sit inlane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh_My_Gah View Post

    I play slither go bot lane with WS, against armadon and scout

    We completely shut them out killing armadon i think 4 times scout twice, we get the first tower.
    ??? How did u manage do do THAT???

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    Quote Originally Posted by trigshady View Post
    You are no god among noobs. I watched 13min of your game, and not once did you port anywhere but bot lane. Even when your teammates were 4 top and pushing, you just ported bot to continue farming again. Not only that, but you never carried a tp to help other lanes.

    Thats why you´re stuck on 1500. When you learn teamplay and start carrying your team, by being there at every teamfight, making a difference or turning around a situation with a tp and get 2 kills. Not by farming a lane as ghost marcher slither, thinking you can carry it late against a fed flint.
    Lol I was keeping pressure on the other lanes so they would be forced to take care of them because we couldn't win a teamfight. When 3 of your players are feeding and the other team is taking full advantage of how bad they are, me porting top to "help" a teamfight is gonna make a wopping 0 difference. If you keep watching you can see how bad their positioning is, how disorganized and clueless they are in teamfights.

    I go semi carries because that's your best bet with this many bads, if you go full carry the team seems to think its necessary to go 4 more carries. If you go tank your carries can't do their job, so I pick something in between. Also I went tank slither because scout would 2 shot me otherwise

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    To echo what others are saying: You NEED to help other lanes that aren't doing as well as yours if you want to win. This rings true for every bracket. While you guys easily won bottom as a double ranged/harass lane against two melee, top lane may have simply been less skilled or picked inadequate heroes (not necessarily in this instance, as VJ/Panda is quite good) and needed help. HoN is a dynamic game, not a static one where every hero is locked into lane. Watch any competitive game and you will see CONSTANT roams/lane switches and TPs.

    The most obvious thing you could have done to help your team win was gank mid. Flint is the easiest hero in the game to gank, and literally one poison spray would have been enough. However, by insulating yourself bottom, you let the other two lanes lose, and a WS/Slither are clearly NOT going to outcarry a farmed flint or early PK magmus.

    This is a 5v5 game, not a single player lane mode. Treat it as such, and you will start winning a lot more games.

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