Hero Room 101

[iSir`]

If you could choose 3 heroes to remove entirely from the game, who would it be and why? *Note s2* Opinion thread =/ troll thread.

- Low Skill Cap, High Reward, Easy Mode, Rediculous Range On Imba Silence
- Low Skill Cap, High Reward, Low Risk, Easiest Mode, Rediculous Farm Capability
- Unstoppable Mid, Spammable Spells, So Difficult To Kill With Early Kills, Low Risk, High Reward, Good Farming Capability.

This is my opinion, however this only really applies to the bracket I play in 1600-1700~, I'm well aware that this may not be the same in "competative play". Personally think these heroes are stupidly designed and make the game worse.

Would be nice if S2 added heroes that actually had skill shots () instead of shields/passives/autotargetinstagibspells.

Who would you remove?

[WhySoBrave]

; just a badly designed hero that offers nothing from the game.
; bullshit easy hero that snowballs way too quickly.
; useless early, gets outcarried late. Bad in general. But I would rework before cutting him out.


Inb4:

[too`smithie]

i'm pretty sure if you thought about it you'd know why i put these heroes here.

[[TeVs]Tommo]

Tremble.
Fayde.
Amun Ra.

[[JACK]Mysterymagic]

i'm pretty sure if you thought about it you'd know why i put these heroes here.

no i dont, especially with the gemini nerf and the vindi remake. the only thing i think you could be referring to is vindi's ult, which is not that bad.

as for me, i would remove:
:jera:

[[PonE]Beowulf]

[[0g]aeowulf]

or :Warb so I'd never have to tell people to gank the jungle 30 times.
:jera: because he requires no skill to play to a high degree
:Arma Dumb hero.

[[SLET]Rema3rd]

; useless early, gets outcarried late. Bad in general. But I would rework before cutting him out.

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

What.. The... ****?

OT:
Not remove, more like rework so she gets picked abit more. This hero is in need of some love
Its a good hero and I love the look, but just dislike the way he`s ranged but needs nearly melee range to max his dmg output. (While still shooting guns @ melee range despite having knives attachted to his blades)
Used to be godlike but made irrelevant thanks to heroes who can do the same trick but better

[Niqhtmare]

Not remove, more like rework so she gets picked abit more. This hero is in need of some love
Its a good hero and I love the look, but just dislike the way he`s ranged but needs nearly melee range to max his dmg output. (While still shooting guns @ melee range despite having knives attachted to his blades)

The problem with Ophelia is that she is one of the hardest heroes to play, unless you have godlike micro and 99% of pub players does not have this so they don't play Ophelia. However, when someone who can play Ophelia plays her she is one of the best heroes in the game (example: Fly, ZFreek, Wytaliba, fajN)

Oh, and I'd remove

[WhySoBrave]

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

gets outcarried late

What.. The... ****?

OT:
Not remove, more like rework so she gets picked abit more. This hero is in need of some love
Its a good hero and I love the look, but just dislike the way he`s ranged but needs nearly melee range to max his dmg output. (While still shooting guns @ melee range despite having knives attachted to his blades)
Used to be godlike but made irrelevant thanks to heroes who can do the same trick but better

Oh i'm sorry, let me explain it to you in a language you will understand.
I call it dora the explorer speak.

Hero named sandwraith does not do good in early game and there are better heroes to use for carrying late game because he does not perform as good as other heroes in the late game.

Better, son?

[[SLET]Rema3rd]

Oh i'm sorry, let me explain it to you in a language you will understand.
I call it dora the explorer speak.

Hero named sandwraith does not do good in early game and there are better heroes to use for carrying late game because he does not before as good as other heroes in the late game.

Better, son?

Sandwraith can do perfectly fine early game, he can even help ganks at lvl 6 across the map. He just needs a sitter in lane but that doesn`t make him a bad hero. Actually he`s still one of the strongest late game carry`s.

I`m not saying that Mock - Dissipate is as good as it used 2 be on him but he`s still incredible powerfull late, better then most other carries.

The problem with Ophelia is that she is one of the hardest heroes to play, unless you have godlike micro and 99% of pub players does not have this so they don't play Ophelia. However, when someone who can play Ophelia plays her she is one of the best heroes in the game (example: Fly, ZFreek, Wytaliba, fajN)

Pretty much why she needs a Remake, not a complete overhaul mind you, just some skill tweaking to make her easyier for most ppl.

[[SmZ]SomaZ]

- Virtually ungankable (with invis), farms waaay too good, a hero that is guaranteed at least 300 gpm no matter what. In other words, bullsh*t hero.
- This hero is the definition of a tanky meta game. I want him gone.
- A hard carry with a low cooldown low mana cost blink and a crazy mana burn.

[[RAID]Cesious]

There's no way to make her easier for most people besides removing her E or having the minions surround her automatically(Equal MS, teleports with, uncontrollable), in other words changing the hero completely or screwing it up for current Oph players.

My 3 picks would probably be:
1.) Valkyrie - Picked way too much, S2 can't touch her without a wave of rage.
2.) Devourer - More annoying than anything, change rot to not deny(Chalice+rot=free deny if you're good)
3.) Doesn't matter so much, guess it's probably Jeraziah for the annoyance factor.

[[SLET]Rema3rd]

There's no way to make her easier for most people besides removing her E or having the minions surround her automatically(Equal MS, teleports with, uncontrollable), in other words changing the hero completely or screwing it up for current Oph players.

Sure there is, for example. give bonuses base on the creep combo you got, i.e. 3x Minotour increases and let the ultimate show this, for example 3x blue ogre is ultimate + 12 armor to target ally Makeing it a invoker like hero and a instant crowd favorite hit

[MudButt17]

While I think no hero should be removed entirely from the game the three I would remove would be Fayde/Emerald Warden/Ra but special mentions for legionnaire/Armadon/Devourer.

[flibble]

Monkeyking

x 3

CANNOT. STRESS. THIS. ENOUGH.

[[RAID]Cesious]

Sure there is, for example. give bonuses base on the creep combo you got, i.e. 3x Minotour increases and let the ultimate show this, for example 3x blue ogre is ultimate + 12 armor to target ally Makeing it a invoker like hero and a instant crowd favorite hit

The hardest part about her isn't hitting R, the hardest part is using the creeps correctly and efficiently. Even added extra effects based off of the creeps won't do anything to make her easier, it'll just give an extra edge to players that know how to play her, while making up for the lack of micro in lesser players.

One thing they could do is give the Skeleton Kings the ability to create mini-creeps like they do in DotA. It's a feature that was never added.

[Syth`]

It makes me sad seeing him like this...

[[MVA]Verdii]

It makes me sad seeing him like this...

This... he was soo awesome ='[

[yug_modnar]

Wild soul!

Almost ungankable early because his bear alone is stronger then most heroes but still gets almost all items he needs by 30 minutes even if he has only 2 creepspots to farm and is killed 5 times in the first 8 minutes(true story)

+12 item spaces for late game, nuff said