2 in 1 map : Jukes / Pull timer

[Konsume]

NOTE: THE MAP MIGHT TAKE A GOOD 1min TO LOAD! BE PATIENT

Here is my Jukes / Pull timer map to help you guys understand the map in general.

Note: I took my jukes from Violet Premium Guide and the pulls are from TurpinoS guide.

Hope you guys like it

EDIT: I've also included wards from... myself?

[Drasha]

You can double spawn every single creep spawn in the game and the time to do it is pretty easy. I am going to work on a tool that will have different overlays to show the juke spots you missed as well as the ones you have and a bunch of other information.

[[E]Tripwyr]

You can double spawn every single creep spawn in the game

He's not showing where you can double spawn o_O

[Konsume]

You can double spawn every single creep spawn in the game and the time to do it is pretty easy.

ehhmm?? Double spawning is done at each :53 or :52 if you do 2 camps with an hatchet but that was not the goal here. I wanted to show where and when to pull to creep block. There is no point in adding double spawns as it's the same for every single neutrals on the map :P

And for the jukes spots... well... of course I missed some there is like 2309482052 of them :P I just added those that I use the most and were included into violet premium guide

If you are working on something else... good, cause I can't wait to see it!

[[AoS]Extreme_Cake]

Timings for double pulls would be nice, since they're slightly different.

[Konsume]

Timings for double pulls would be nice, since they're slightly different.

I can add it but you have to understand that it differs depending on if your creeps went all on 1 target or spread out on multiple.

it also change as the creeps get increased.....

so it would be hard for me to determine the exact time =X

[Volshok]

Add the other ward spots for ward wars.

Near Legion Ancients
Top of Hellbourne Ramp going to bot
Ledge of Legion jungle entrance
etc.

[Konsume]

Add the other ward spots for ward wars.

Near Legion Ancients
Top of Hellbourne Ramp going to bot
Ledge of Legion jungle entrance
etc.

humm... normaly the wards ive shown cover all those spots except the one near the legion ancients.... unless I don't understand what you mean.

But overall if I start putting green dots everywhere Jack and John puts them we will have a green map as you can be quite creative with those. Basicaly ive put green dots on the most commonly used spots and the ones I've seen alot in recent pro tournament streams.

[[RDC]Zekkei]

ive done the red one without marchers i just got loggers hatchet and cut my way thour at the trees to improve LOS for creeps you gotta start chopping as fast as you can if you kill all anchients its 200+ gold i think

[[TL]Typhus]

The hellbourne ancient camp can be pulled into the lane by a ranged class without marchers. To do this pull it at :05/:35

[Azzwuppa]

I was trying to practice the medium (pink) pulls and I am having troubles getting the melee creep to come with. I only manage to get the ranged creep and I was wondering if their are any techniques that would help?

[A1ias]

I was trying to practice the medium (pink) pulls and I am having troubles getting the melee creep to come with. I only manage to get the ranged creep and I was wondering if their are any techniques that would help?

If you're playing wildsoul you could pull it between :27/:57 and :28/:58 and use your bear to block the creeps, although it doesn't seem to work all the time

[[SBTs]Norroar]

You missed three quite important warding spots, to be honest.
Cropped the image and marked them with a red dot too.




I'm going to assume that the blue arrows refer to pulling another (double) camp to the creeps already in the forest. Right?


I realize that you might not want add all the spots you could eventually hatchet through, but these three are very critical in my opinion.



You can eat a single tree to get into a hideout at the spot to the left.

Middle spot you can run right through, which might confuse your enemies.

Right spot is just the most awesome ever. People do not realize you can actually run through there, and it requires you to click properly while inside - or it will make you run the other way around. It's an excellent juking spot which has saved my life several times.

[Glorify1]

This took me less than a second to load, liar.

You missed a few good juke spots too. :P

[[69M8]Process]

You missed three quite important warding spots, to be honest.
Cropped the image and marked them with a red dot too.




I'm going to assume that the blue arrows refer to pulling another (double) camp to the creeps already in the forest. Right?


I realize that you might not want add all the spots you could eventually hatchet through, but these three are very critical in my opinion.



You can eat a single tree to get into a hideout at the spot to the left.

Middle spot you can run right through, which might confuse your enemies.

Right spot is just the most awesome ever. People do not realize you can actually run through there, and it requires you to click properly while inside - or it will make you run the other way around. It's an excellent juking spot which has saved my life several times.

Exactly what I was thinking.

There are some more great tree chopping juke spots if you have the patience to look.

[Konsume]

This took me less than a second to load, liar.

You missed a few good juke spots too. :P

sorry mr.angel =X

[[S2]Viole]

My in-game-name is Viole btw <3

[TurpinoS]

Sheeeettt that looks nice !!1

[[E]Tripwyr]

Necroing 2 week old threads seems to be the cool thing to do here these days.

[[S2]Viole]

Necroing 2 week old threads seems to be the cool thing to do here these days.

It was linked in IRC and he spelled my name wrong. Srslybro.