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  1. #1

    Boots of Tenacity

    (Better name to be suggested)

    Hey guys

    Here's my new item suggestion.
    I really don't have much to say, but think it could be a viable item. Here goes:

    Components:
    Marchers - 500g
    Guardian Ring - 175g
    Crushing Claws - 150g
    Recipe - 175g

    Total cost: 1000g
    Passive Bonus:
    +65 Movement Speed (50 from Marchers)
    +3 Armor (2 from Guardian Ring)
    +5 Strength (3 from Crushing Claws)
    Description:
    When activated, applies Tenacity to self for 5 seconds (15 seconds cooldown - 50 Mana Cost).
    Tenacity effects:
    30% Stun and Debuff Reduction*.
    25% Movement Slow Resistance.

    *The Stun and Debuff Reduction does NOT stack with skill like Slab Skin (Pebbles' 3rd ability) and Carnage (Berzerker's Ultimate - 4th ability).

    Note: Tenacity only works on spells casted on the user after it's applied.

    Examples (Tenacity vs. Hero skills) [Large list warning!]:

    Legion Agility Heroes:
    Draconis
    Dragonflame (Q): Tapering movement slow from 40% to 30% and duration from 1.5/2.0/2.5/3.0 to 1.05/1.4/1.75/2.1 seconds.
    Fiery Barrage (E): MS slow from 10% to 7.5%.
    Andromeda
    Comet (Q): Stun duration from 1.75 to 1.23 seconds.
    Wildsoul
    BooBoo's Root: Duration lowered.
    Master of Arms
    Overcharge Shot (Q): Stun duration from 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8 to 0.84/0.98/1.12/1.26 seconds.
    Ace up my Sleeve (W): Slow duration lowered.
    Emerald Warden
    Silencing Shot (Q): Duration from 2/3/4/5 to 1.4/2.1/2.8/3.5 seconds.
    Hunter's Command (W): MS slow from 20% to 15% and slow duration from X to Y seconds.
    Overgrowth (E): Not affected since it's a gadget.
    Valkyrie
    Javelin of Light (W): Maximum stun duration from 5 to 3.5 seconds.
    Monkey King
    Heavenly Vault (W): MS slow from 20/40/60/80% to 15/30/45/60% and duration from 2 to 1.4 seconds.
    Magebane
    Mana Rift (R): Stun duration from 0.1/0.2/0.3 to 0.07/0.14/0.21 seconds.
    Scout
    Electric Eye (W): Silence duration from 3/4/5/6 to 2.1/2.8/3.5/4.2 seconds.
    Marksman Shot (R): MS slow from 20/30/40% to 15/23/30% and duration from 4 to 2.8 seconds.
    Night Hound
    Smoke Bomb (Q): MS slow from 25% to 19%.
    Nomad
    Sandstorm (Q): MS slow from 7/14/21/28% to 5.3/10.5/15.8/21%.
    Edge Counter (R): Stun duration from 2/2.5/3 to 1.4/1.75/2.1 seconds.
    Swiftblade
    No skills affected.
    Engineer
    The Keg (Q): Stun duration from 1.25/1.5/1.75/2 to 0.88/1.1/1.23/1.4 seconds.
    Steam Turret (W): MS slow per charge from 3.5% to 2.6%.
    Energy Field (R): Silence duration from 2 to 1.4 seconds.
    Moonqueen
    Moon Beam (Q): Stun duration from 0.6 to 0.42 seconds.
    Zephyr
    Typhoon (R): Maximum MS slow from 90% to 63%.
    Silhouette
    Tree Grapple: Stun duration from 1/1.5/2/2.5 to 0.7/1.1/1.4/1.75 seconds.


    Hellbourne Agility Heroes:
    Dampeer
    Terrorize (Q): Fear duration from 1 to 0.7 seconds.
    Flint Beastwood
    Explosive Flare (Q): Damage duration from 2 to 1.4 seconds and MS slow from 14/18/22/26% to 10.5/12.6/15.4/18.2%.
    Hollowpoint Shells (W): Stun duration from 0.05/0.1/0.2/0.2 to 0.04/0.07/0.14/0.14 seconds.
    Money Shot (R): Stun duration from 0.2 to 0.14 seconds.
    Sandwraith
    Desert's Curse (Q): MS slow from 8/12/16/20% to 6/9/12/15% and minimum duration from 3 to 2.1 seconds.
    Bloodhunter
    Blood Crazy (Q): Debuff duration from 6/7/8/9 seconds to 4.2/4.9/5.6/6.3 seconds.
    Hemorrhage (R): Duration from 5/7/9 seconds to 3.5/4.9/6.3 seconds.


    Legion Intelligence Heroes:
    Coming soon.

    Hellbourne Intelligence Heroes:
    Coming soon.

    Legion Strength Heroes:
    Coming soon.

    Hellbourne Strength Heroes:
    Coming soon.


    Changes:
    (16-03-2012): Rescaled the MS from 65 to 60.
    (16-03-2012): Added a MS Slow Resistance to Tenacity.
    (16-03-2012): Removed the Damage Reduction from Tenacity.
    (16-03-2012): Added Examples of all Legion Agility Heroes and some Hellbourne Agility Heroes.
    (16-03-2012): Changed the components from RotT to Guardian Ring and Crushing Claws. Also lowered the total price from 1200 to 1000.
    Final Words:
    Feel free to leave a comment. Also only place your vote for the concept, since numbers will be changed for sure.
    Last edited by Thuriner; 03-16-2012 at 11:31 AM.

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  2. #2
    Soo, the RotT damage just disappears?
    I LIKE TURTLES

  3. #3
    Yeah it does. I didn't forget about it and think the change from 0.65 Mana Reg to 1.0 was better for supportive players rather than +5 attack damage.

    Ofcourse I could rework it, but I also do think the swap from the extra attack damage to Tenacity is viable on supports.

    I also think the item would be too powerful if it kept the RotT aura.

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  4. #4
    I really like this item, but I think it should remove 1 debuff and mov speed bonus, only that. Or give only the mov speed and the stun resist. Btw, it should reduce the silence time, by something like 5 seconds, I think 5 seconds is enoguh to not chase someone.




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  5. #5
    It's not removing any debuffs casted before use (is it misleading?).
    It's simply lowering the duration of all debuffs casted on the user while Tenacity is active (the 5 seconds).
    Any debuffs which hits the user, before Tenacity is activated, are not affected by the reductions.

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  6. #6
    I think RotT is already too powerful and making it easily upgradeable for supports would make it way OP, that's why I voted No
    Quote Originally Posted by Reldnahc View Post
    Friends don't let friends drive drunk, or play LoL.

  7. #7
    So even though you lose the auras and the damage from RotT, it's still considered too strong?

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  8. #8
    Unfortunately I could not see this being picked up by supports over striders, as it is too costly. 400 gold is a lot for a player that only sees about 4000 in a game.

  9. #9
    I've not said it's purely for supports.
    I just made an example in #3 of why I eliminated the +5 damage from RotT (I've never been a fan of striders though).
    The item is made for the ones who are focused down in fights or have no escape mechanisms.

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  10. #10
    *BUMP* Removed RotT from the components.

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  11. #11
    *BUMP* Need some more comments/votes from all you guys! xD

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  12. #12
    *BUMPING*

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    Do we really need to copy more LoL boots? :/

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  14. #14
    #13
    So because the boots are called Boots of Tenacity, then you suggest they are from LoL?
    I've never really played the game so I didn't know they had boots like that.

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    The boots aren't called boots of Tenacity, however they give you tenacity which reduces debuff/disable duration on you by 35% or something.

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  16. #16
    name of the LoL boots is Mercury's Treads. Back when I played it (two years ago) they were the only item that reduced CC duration, and were picked up like almost every time and on almost any hero in serious games.
    "Proclamation was made, in the King's Name, for all Persons to keep Silence" - House of Lords Journal, Volume 20, 24 June 1717

  17. #17
    #15
    Ahh cool. But still. The idea is something I came up with by looking at Deadwood, Pebbles and Berzerker.

    Also just checked up on these LoL boots and saw that they give a passive debuff/disable reduction.

    But thanks for the comments (I might consider some changes to the item) :-)

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