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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by n1te View Post
    But it would be if you went into korea and started asking everyone in english to give you directions to the nearest bar or club wouldnt it?????? going into a place where you know for a clear fact that your language is either A:not spoken entirely or B: is spoken by so few, that actual communication is practically useless. As I stated before, im all for language diversity. but dont come to an english speaking country without atleast knowing something of thier language.
    No because I'd be in Korea. So it would still be my fault. As far as I'm aware, HoN is not an English speaking country. The only thing that HoN players have in common when it comes to language is that 50% of their every day vocabulary seems to be swearing and the other 50% is spelled wrong.

    Personally I think if you don't know, or make an effort to know, another language or multiple languages then you're not a well rounded human being. Saying everyone should speak English is a way of making yourself alone in the world culturally. I'd love to be able to speak Portugese and actually, I bet half the people raging about it are Anime nerds who like to slip the three Japanese words they know in to casual conversation.
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    I'm more surprised that the mods haven't moved this to non-constructive or qurantine yet.
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    I see it as a problem that needs to be fixed, have to disagree with it not being considered "constructive". It's a real problem with real solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OtherPlayers View Post
    Gotta agree with you here. English is the official language of HoN, and if you don't speak it, you should at least learn how to type mia, re, top/bot/mid, and go/stop.
    And this was the moment the thread became non-constructive.

    Newsflash: If you're in a team and 4 other players speak a common language you don't understand, guess who the "foreigner" is.

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    suggestion: Everybody has to choose the languages he/she can speak/understand. If you go into matchmaking you are only matched with people that have a language in common.

    Problem solved.

    (since most people in this game speak/understand english there should be no real increase in waiting time)

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Jellie View Post
    And this was the moment the thread became non-constructive.

    Newsflash: If you're in a team and 4 other players speak a common language you don't understand, guess who the "foreigner" is.
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    Funnily enough I find that on SEA servers the quality of English is higher than on American servers. But I speak decent enough Portugese and Mandarin anyway..

    Besides, why not view it as an opportunity to learn something about a foreign language? If you live in America learning Spanish especially is probably pretty useful huh?

  8. #48
    I dont think that the problem is with non english ppl , I have played with many retards that I wished they have never spoken and just kept silent through whole game.


    So no , the problem is not with those ppl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellie View Post
    And this was the moment the thread became non-constructive.

    Newsflash: If you're in a team and 4 other players speak a common language you don't understand, guess who the "foreigner" is.
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    No because I'd be in Korea. So it would still be my fault. As far as I'm aware, HON IS NOT AN ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRY. The only thing that HoN players have in common when it comes to language is that 50% of their every day vocabulary seems to be swearing and the other 50% is spelled wrong.

    So when you are in korea its your fault for not knowing the language, but when you play on servers that are in THE WESTERN WORLD, A PLACE WITH ONLY TWO OFFICAL LANGUAGES (I only say two because im from Canada) Guess what they are??? I bet they arent brazilian and german, are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    Personally I think if you don't know, or make an effort to know, another language or multiple languages then you're not a well rounded human being. Saying everyone should speak English is a way of making yourself alone in the world culturally. I'd love to be able to speak Portugese
    Then how come its ok for them not to know my language when they try to speak to me? I dont speak to them in shitty broken brazilian. If I did, they would be in the right to tell me to go away


    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    I bet half the people raging about it are Anime nerds who like to slip the three Japanese words they know in to casual conversation.
    I bet statements like this are why people just shake their heads at you after you finish opening and closing your mouth

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Tic`tic View Post
    It would be nice if it were possible to add a thumbs up/down option for "English Only."

    Those who speak other languages/don't care about English Only wouldn't have to do anything, and their wait times probably wouldn't change.

    I personally wouldn't mind waiting longer for [more] certainty that I will be able to understand my team.

    Signed, Player who has been told to "y dont u lern our lengag ****er!!!!!" when requesting English for important callouts...
    I suggested language flags long long ago. You check off what languages you speak, and you get queued with people who share the same language(s).

    I can think of no reason not to implement this.
    Suggestions:
    Reverse Pick Game Mode:
    http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402091

    Slippers of retreat: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402103

    Language flags : http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402084

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by IsmaelVera View Post
    I'm more surprised that the mods haven't moved this to non-constructive or qurantine yet.
    Why whould they, there is constructive comments mixed in with the rage. It is an issue that is affecting the community, why not address it.
    Suggestions:
    Reverse Pick Game Mode:
    http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402091

    Slippers of retreat: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402103

    Language flags : http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402084

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by n1te View Post
    So when you are in korea its your fault for not knowing the language, but when you play on servers that are in THE WESTERN WORLD, A PLACE WITH ONLY TWO OFFICAL LANGUAGES (I only say two because im from Canada) Guess what they are??? I bet they arent brazilian and german, are they?
    I was about to try to form some kind of argument against this, but then I realised that you ended your post with this:

    I bet statements like this are why people just shake their heads at you after you finish opening and closing your mouth
    Are you trolling yourself? Comments like yours implying that Canada is the Western world are exactly the issue. People are too lazy to even bother considering anything beyond their own front door. The world doesn't revolve around you. The 'western world' doesn't choose it's official languages based on what some kid in some backwater town in Canada speaks. I really found it hard to find somewhere to begin with what you said.

    Then how come its ok for them not to know my language when they try to speak to me? I dont speak to them in shitty broken brazilian. If I did, they would be in the right to tell me to go away
    Conversely, how is it ok for you not to know their language when you try to speak to them. HoN lets international players play regardless of what language they speak. There isn't one rule for you and another for everyone else, and there's a reason for that.

    You want to know what that reason is? It's because you aren't better than anyone else, so stop pretending to be based on the language you speak.

    If HoN specifically said that it was an English speaking game then you would have an argument. But it isn't and you don't so suck it up. Plenty people in the western world are multi lingual, and they're better people for it.

    I have no idea how you can say that people shake their heads at me when I talk after you took the time and effort to write that badly written, badly argued garbage.
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  14. #54
    I took a couple classes to learn basic portugese. It's really helped me tell the brazilians to use english in their own language.

    Protip: They don't like it when the only thing you can say in Portugese is Use Inglês ou eu vou foder sua irmã com uma motosserra.
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  15. #55
    "why don't people speak in english!!! " RAGE!!!!

    people always *****ing about this in the forums but when you play even if you are speaking in english and trying to communicate with your team all i get is this:

    "herp derp you got an accent shitty br lololol why you talking to me with accent learn english herp derp"

    i play with some Canadians and American friends....i only speak spanish in a voice server of us and english in-game, but people still ***** about some of us having an accent on a language thats no our main one...even though we speak it fairly decent....but they cannot even speak spanish or portuguese....

    get real people and maybe you should also learn another language english is not the only form of communication in this world

    :fors:

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by AzureAlain View Post
    "why don't people speak in english!!! " RAGE!!!!

    people always *****ing about this in the forums but when you play even if you are speaking in english and trying to communicate with your team all i get is this:

    "herp derp you got an accent shitty br lololol why you talking to me with accent learn english herp derp"

    i play with some Canadians and American friends....i only speak spanish in a voice server of us and english in-game, but people still ***** about some of us having an accent on a language thats no our main one...even though we speak it fairly decent....but they cannot even speak spanish or portuguese....

    get real people and maybe you should also learn another language english is not the only form of communication in this world

    :fors:
    Unfortunately not everyone has the same geographical advantages. If you grow up in a number of parts of Canada / US the only language you will learn as a child is English. There is a massive landmass of basically one language. We don't have multiple countries with multiple languages withing a 3 hour flight. For monolingual people, learning a second language as an adult can be extremely difficult.

    When a server is listed as USA east I would think that the majority of players i'd encounter would speak English. If i played EU i would not expect this. If i was playing on a server labeled central Canada I'd expect to get french and English.

    What it comes down to is Hon requires good communication to have a good team. Having a good team makes a fun game, even if you lose. There is a huge landmass and population unfortunate enough to be monolingual and that language is English. These people want to play games they know they will be able to communicate with their teammates.

    This is a problem, a real problem, not just random bigotry or rage, although there are those that use that to express it. This is something imho S2 should address and it would make the game more fun for all parties.

    I suggested long ago Language Flagging, I feel it would work and it would help the situation..
    Suggestions:
    Reverse Pick Game Mode:
    http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402091

    Slippers of retreat: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402103

    Language flags : http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=402084

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    I was about to try to form some kind of argument against this, but then I realised that you ended your post with this:

    I bet statements like this are why people just shake their heads at you after you finish opening and closing your mouth
    sorry you dont like being called out for talking nonsense >_>

    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    Are you trolling yourself? Comments like yours implying that CANADA IS THE WESTERN WORLD are exactly the issue. People are too lazy to even bother considering anything beyond their own front door. The world doesn't revolve around you. The 'western world' doesn't choose it's official languages based on what some kid in some backwater town in Canada speaks. I really found it hard to find somewhere to begin with what you said.
    I like how you dont really read what I put down, then bash on it for what it dosent say. I didnt say that canada IS the western world at all. Its APART of it, and really... if you think that they decided it was time to speak english in this country or america as the official languages... look at your flag buddy, THATS WHERE WE ALL CAME FROM. I never said they chose it to be english because of me,I also specifically state that canada has two languages, of course you wouldnt try to show that part out, considering it makes you look like a pandering douche bag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    Conversely, how is it ok for you not to know their language when you try to speak to them. HoN lets international players play regardless of what language they speak. There isn't one rule for you and another for everyone else, and there's a reason for that.
    Thats why the forums are done in ENGLISH, right??? and other languages have thier OWN FORUMS.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    You want to know what that reason is? It's because you aren't better than anyone else, so stop pretending to be based on the language you speak.
    I never said I was better did I? no... certainly didnt seem like It when I stated I dont use broken forms of other languages to reply to people in a verbally demanding game??? maybe you just dont understand me. Not my fault, clearly

    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    If HoN specifically said that it was an English speaking game then you would have an argument. But it isn't and you don't so suck it up. Plenty people in the western world are multi lingual, and they're better people for it.
    People are only multi lingual by two routes
    1:Its apart of who they are and they love to learn languages
    2:Its apart of their job and they NEED to learn other languages

    Quote Originally Posted by Carcharhinus View Post
    I have no idea how you can say that people shake their heads at me when I talk after you took the time and effort to write that badly written, badly argued garbage.
    Take another look at what you typed out, then try and think about it again K?

  18. #58
    Im more worried about the ones that don't communicate AT ALL!!
    I've learned that the best way to assess if a game is going to be 'one of the games' is to yell 'Hey Guys, How you all doing' into my mic on joining. And to notice who i get a reply from.
    Any that dont reply I will text 'hey xxx have you got sound on? - just to check if they are a Mac user'.
    If I still dont get a reply I will try and help them by pinging the map like a mad man before the obvious 'you are abot to get ganked'.
    IF even that doesn't help and they are just obvious feeders better to take a leave and jump on the Russian roulette wheel again.

    I've given up on even hoping for a 'fair' TMM match. Only queue with friends (who all have a mic and communicate) and suddenly your mmr goes up and up.... I wonder why?

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSurfer View Post
    Im more worried about the ones that don't communicate AT ALL!!
    I've learned that the best way to assess if a game is going to be 'one of the games' is to yell 'Hey Guys, How you all doing' into my mic on joining. And to notice who i get a reply from.
    Any that dont reply I will text 'hey xxx have you got sound on? - just to check if they are a Mac user'.
    If I still dont get a reply I will try and help them by pinging the map like a mad man before the obvious 'you are abot to get ganked'.
    IF even that doesn't help and they are just obvious feeders better to take a leave and jump on the Russian roulette wheel again.

    I've given up on even hoping for a 'fair' TMM match. Only queue with friends (who all have a mic and communicate) and suddenly your mmr goes up and up.... I wonder why?
    so much this.

    The worst is when you discuss a strategy and you ask the guy with 1.9 kd or whatever who's obviously a carry player to pick a sidelane carry because you've got a strong mid, a jungler, a suicide and a good babysit all ready with your strategy and he doesn't say anything and doesn't right click anything and then goes f*cking blood hunter or deadwood, then finally, right before creeps spawn while he's at the mid lane river and finally notices the pebbles creep blocking mid and heading to the lane he says "me mid" in teamchat, then doesn't say anything else until 15:00 when he says "cc" in all chat and starts spamming concede votes.

    Seriously. How do you miss five full minutes of people discussing lanes and strategy before, during, and after picks unless you're intentionally throwing games? Needless to say, we drew the game out as long as possible while he spammed concede votes and we refused to kick him. He didn't leave, so kudos to him protecting his leaver percentage, but seriously, that's the worst kind of griefing and isn't even close to punishable.

    this crap happens about 1/10 games in the 1500-1600 bracket and it makes the game almost unplayable sometimes.
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