Soul reaper and Hellbringer viable in the current metagame?

[ireapzzx]

As the title states ^^
These two heroes, imo, can bring a lot to the table with correct use of their skills (for e.g. hellbringer ulti to counter powerful initiators such as tempest, and soul reaper's heal to assist with a heavy push line up).
So what do you guys think?
Coming from a spectator's point of view, it would be highly entertaining to see those clutchy hellbringer turnarounds as well as the awesome soul reaper alt avatar =)

Ps. just a crazy team line-up I came up off the top of my head;
- pebbles + nymphora/ amun ra + demented shaman
- hellbringer
- soul reaper + accursed

[Red``]

I miss Malphas.

[Jenova26]

Infs was running SR quite a bit until they parted ways. Perhaps PPD will bring him further into the spotlight with part of his meta-revolution.

HB contributes awesomely to any lineup with the most powerful stun in the game, but he's not really a support and not really a carry which makes him more of a niche/counter pick.

[Dafcee`]

Fnatic was seen scrimming with SR as well. KheZu also mentioned SR in his interview on GosuGamers.. SR definitely will be seen alot soon!

[[fpbs]MisterP]

Soulreaper + Accursed

Midas

Nymph/Demented +

Unstoppable!

[[fny]Fornozo]

I think you mean Armadon.

But sr seems like a hero who would fit well into the current metagame. As long as he get's a decent early game.

[[N1BR]Vomijaunatre]

I feel that SR can recover pretty well from a bad early, through his ultimate, his good utility and his ability to eat creep waves as soon as his passive is upped. Something like astrolabe, stormspirit/tablet and hex gives him good push, good survivability, good mana pool and mana regen as well as good utility.

[[D0G]chaR`]

Hellbringer got some nerfs, though it suprises me how he isn't picked more often still, especially with how popular tempest is currently.

[TheHultek]

Hellbringer is an awesome hero, he is just hard to lane. About Soul Reaper - I always consider this hero as good counter against tanks. I mean, drop tank to 50% of life, Use SR's ulti = profit????

[[FOLF]`Festivalen]

If you plan to pick SR you would play him with 2 other supports supporting him while he farms or if you maybe send him mid but it's very useless to have a very farmed SR compared to other heroes that brings nothing to the table if you don't have A VERY GOOD FARM.

[[sG]Cvein]

I hated when HB was allways picked/banned. Was so glad when people stopped using him. His ultimate is good, but his q is lame, his death boil WAS op, now sucks (lol), Life void is his only entertaining skill imo (with the exception of Malphas).

[[MLZY]TonVanDuur]

KARU1 always says "Go aggressive picks. Pick Scout and NightHound" This picks are new meta. KARU1 said that.

HB is bad © KARU1
Soul Reaper is boring © KARU1

[Lariatoooo]

I hated when HB was allways picked/banned. Was so glad when people stopped using him. His ultimate is good, but his q is lame, his death boil WAS op, now sucks (lol), Life void is his only entertaining skill imo (with the exception of Malphas).

10% less damage & death boil passed from op to ****?

[[Poni]kippetje]

(just theorycrafting)
SR, though he seems like he should be very good atm (anti tank, push etc.) I remember him as a hero that needed some farm before he could be useful. Before he gets some initial items he isn't that strong. (note that I am not saying he's bad or anything)
As for Hellbringer, after the recent buff he should be fine and you'll see him pop up again sometime soon.

[[sG]Cvein]

10% less damage & death boil passed from op to ****?

The amount of ticks early game destroyed the opponent solo hero back in the trilane meta. The death boil doesn't have that much impact now, atleast imo.
Might have been with the shift in the meta games, but he were pretty much never banned after the nerf and not that much picked up either, If i remember correctly.

I am no comp player, and this is my thoughts on the topic.

[too`smithie]

Hellbringer > Tempest.

Only problem with Hellbringer and SR is trying to lane them, and not relying on Hellbringers ultimate to team fight..

I'm getting sick of Fly picknig Tempest and getting the auto victory.

[[RawR]MLG_PawnStar]

recently i've been getting dominated by aoe teams.

A team like zephyr, sr, midas, kinesis, Fa just plain hurts.

or zephyr, draconis, kinesis, sr, midas.

Sr provides the right amount of finishing power when all the aoe gets the essential target (enemy carry or guy with kudra) to 40%. And provides to the aoe damage while helping keep the team alive allowing the aoe time to work. The few seconds that SR's heals + astrolabe provides will mean the enemy team takes that many hundreas of damage/second more.

obv this may not be anywhere near competitively viable, but it just highlights how SR fits in.

[willfeed]

HB with his 1.2 agility gain and 10 staring agility... really needs some love, and he's throwback is just annoying. but S2 killing all the dota heroes is kinda funny

[[CMAP]God`]

recently i've been getting dominated by aoe teams.

A team like zephyr, sr, midas, kinesis, Fa just plain hurts.

or zephyr, draconis, kinesis, sr, midas.

Sr provides the right amount of finishing power when all the aoe gets the essential target (enemy carry or guy with kudra) to 40%. And provides to the aoe damage while helping keep the team alive allowing the aoe time to work. The few seconds that SR's heals + astrolabe provides will mean the enemy team takes that many hundreas of damage/second more.

obv this may not be anywhere near competitively viable, but it just highlights how SR fits in.

You're kidding right? Those lineups are plain terrible. Who would support? Soul reaper? kinesis? Lolz.

[[iG]iNsania]

Soulreaper + Accursed

Midas

Nymph/Demented +

Unstoppable!

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