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Hello fellow HoNers!
Ive come to seek thy help. I encountered a berzerker 3 times when playing yesterday and lost em all. Mind you, this is not a cry that he is op, Im just asking for help on how you play against him. I found him and Empath being a damn hard combo to deal with, also Berzerker + healer/healers wasnt very fun either.
So any one got a tip on how you play against him in general?
-Armor, pred, pesti.
~Robbie
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despite his ultimate reducing debuffs by 80%, he can be easily focused down if he isn't in a 1v1 situation.
Originally Posted by Glorify
I would say hes pretty uncounterable. Strong in every possible way.
Only thing that can save you is a superior initiation and disabling him before he will use his ultimate.
Items as void talisman and stormspirit are decent as well i guess but they will just let you survive a bit longer.
Tbh the best you can do is get a burst type heroes or glasscanons as your carrys :f
About carrys who can do somewhat good vs him i would say pesti, maybe chronos since chronosphere wont be shorten, silhuete and nomad for their physical burst.
God i hate that hero and today is friday meaning that either ill pick him or get destroyed by anyone who can get300 gpm :f
Vindi is pretty much ****ing him up in a lane. Berzerker has a very limited mana pool, relatively mana intense spells and lives from comboing his skills on a single target. If you delay his combo by a few seconds or burn his mana he is becoming pretty much useless. I played a few times with a support + berzerker against a Vindi + Nuke lane and we got our ass kicked, as I was constantly unable to use my skills.
I higly doubt that he was asking bout how to counter zerk during lanning phase since its nothing hard. Basically every good double stun high magic dmg combo works ...
If his ulti is purgable :NullfireBlade: I dont know whether it works though.
Succ and panda both murder him. Same for elec and ramp. Remember that he has no escape and is easily focused down once he ults. Most zerker players don't bother getting shrunken from what I've seen in 1600 and 1500.
y but there is no hard counter right now to these kind of heroes, which is probably the reason why STR carries are dominating the current meta pretty much. The only thing you can do is shut him down in the early laning phase or face him with another strong STR carry, such as.
Never the less Vindi is a very good pick against him.
Well usually you can somewhat counter most of those str heroes by having hard disabling team but it doesnt work on zerk :/
^This. Zerk ult doesn't reduce how long chaneling affect him. Devourer is also worth trying.
Also I didn't check if it was the case but if ult can be stolen, parasite could be funny. All his skills use a buff/debuff.
Easiest way to counter berzerker is to buy a nullfire or pick electrician. gets rid of his ult, the one skill that makes berzerker berzerker
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Best way to counter him is just win the lane he is in. He isn't that good of a hero, I've never won a game with him on my team, nor lost to him. Yeah he can be a crazy damage tank, but just smash him early and rejoice.
It is interesting that you would say that since his ultimate is UNPURGABLE.
Counters that do work well(Except for simply just nuking him). Electrician's hold, Poly's hold and Succubus' ultimate are all unaffected in length. So are Rampage's stuns and ulti. There are other spells that can lockdown berserker such as Tempest's ulti, Chronos' ulti and Panda's ulti.
However seeing that Berserker normally doesn't pick up SH, Smitten from succubus works somewhat. It lowers his damage quite nicely, however if the ultimate is already up when you apply it, the damage reduction only works for 3 seconds.
Yea the biggest problem ive faced when playin zerk is a good panda. He absolutely murdered me. I got one kill on him from the dot of strength sap in a 1v1 situation but every other time he had the edge. Also worth mentioning...Dont tower dive and artesia with her ult...you will die
any channeling or gadget debuff works against him. Pollywog comes to mind as someone that can gank him pretty solidly during the early/mid phase. After that, a farmed DM, Panda or Chronos should be able to 1v1 him pretty well.
Andromeda seems good too, since she can break his chain without the stun in most cases, as well as giving good vision when he's chasing and making sure your carry hits him hard.
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I think building a hellflower vs him is very effective. His ult causes him to take 20% more damage. Hellflower causes him to take 20% more damage. He just falls apart.
lol, if u use hellflower before he ulties, we wont be able to ulti, so itll only be 20%, if u use it after he ulties, the extra 20% from hellflower will last 1 sec, sooooo... not the best counter imo
A couple of times now I have beaten better players with. Building a Sheildbreaker to combine with ult. Chuck conduit on him and if he chases you he dies.
Having said that, I did this in the 1500-1600 bracket so it may not be relevant.
Burst. If he has his ultimate on then you can burst him down pretty easily. Pyro WS Fayde Hell even sustained magic/true damage will do the trick.
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