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Fair enough, but this is capitalism. Things aren't simply valued on how useful they are in a productive sense.Originally Posted by LegoPirate
capitalism? more like shinyism. I really don't get why people love gold so much. Is it just because it considered to define poor from rich and a self-esteem problem? Like people who buy limited avatars?
That's fine, but gold has no more inherent value then the greenback. It is all based upon what people will pay for itFair enough, but this is capitalism. Things aren't simply valued on how useful they are in a productive sense.
There are no reserves! In the words of your former comptroller general, David Walker, when asked how much money the U.S had in reserve: "Zero. Zip."
And: The cost of social security, medicare, medicaid will skyrocket when the babyboomers retire (which is just about....now). What does that mean? Either: Escalating the borrowing, or print more dollars. The debt should be a huge concern during this election.. The only way America can pay back the money they owe is by printing it.. Thank people like Romney for destroying your production base..
Sure, the gold standard will bring problems - my real issue is with fiat currency, which grants the ability to create money out of nothing, and the current monetary policies. But thats a different discussion.
Edit: Regarding zero understanding of modern economics: In hindsight, do you honestly think the guys in power are doing it right? I mean, we get a economic crisis approximately every 15 years, yet people still cling to the outdated economic theories and models - and every single time: "Oh gosh, we never imagined this crisis coming." My point: If it is not working, why spend even more money to delay unavoidable failure. And yes, I am one of those who believe a total collapse of the global economy will occur if nothing drastic is done.
Back on topic: I cant decide who is the worst: Romney, a mormon corporate raider who will switch sides on every single issue - or Santorum: A batshit crazy evangelist (or the proper term: fundamentalist).
Last edited by AdventureMan; 03-01-2012 at 05:04 AM.
Why don't Americans like Ron Paul, he seems allright for a republican.
He's not some batshit Christian or a Mormon, doesn't want to go to war afaik, what's not to like?
every generation believes the world is gonna end, teenagers are getting worse, etc etc etc.
it's just a legal way to steal money from working people, but people are uneducated so they are fine with that.
1. Gold looks very nice from a jewelry perspective, just like diamonds. You can turn heads with a simple gold plated watch.
2. The value of gold has been on a very strong uptrend in the last decade, something every investor is aware of. Since 2003, it has averaged a 17.6% increase/year, of course, compounded.
If you are looking into which elements are undervalued right now though, both platinum and uranium are extremely attractive.
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Because mainstream Dems and Repubs call him a radical and don't support him. There's a two party system in the US and if you aren't with one of them then you aren't getting elected. Also, sadly, religion is actually a big deal when it comes to a President here. It makes no sense...but it's true.
Oh how I remember the controversy when it was claimed that Obama was a Muslim...then a radical Christian.
Okay, how is it that creationism doesn't qualify as batshit crazy christianity?
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Except from what I know about his political history, he's politically with evolution (I.E. Public Education) but personally believes creationism. Which is his religion and if his policy is separation of church and state then I really couldn't give two ****s what he believes.
He's not Santorum stating that a woman's rape baby is a gift and that federal policy should protect that gift.
[EDIT] Not only that, but most of R Paul's policy regarding 'religiously controversial' issues like abortion ect. is (correctly) that it's a state issue, not a national issue. We are the United States after all, sick of the feds having all the power. The man's not perfect but goddamn if he doesn't just nail some of the biggest issues we're facing today and he's been saying these things for most of his career, not recently to appease public opinion.
Last edited by Good_Apollo; 03-01-2012 at 02:27 PM.
Maybe if that were true..
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/abortion/ From his website.
Further, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyfnHOPAhHoImmediately saving lives by effectively repealing Roe v. Wade and preventing activist judges from interfering with state decisions on life by removing abortion from federal court jurisdiction through legislation modeled after his “We the People Act.”
He's close to being a decent candidate, but his religion is really off-putting for me. What I like about him is that he doesn't seem to be bought by corporate America. He seems honest and to believe what he says. He even follows through on his beliefs with his actions. That's almost enough for me. But I need a president who has enough rationality to recognize the validity of scientific advancement and realize that Faith and science are not incompatible (and if Faith is to survive, must not be incompatible). He does seem to be the only honest person out there, though. Obama doesn't seem any less bought out in my eyes (although when he was the first candidate to not take public funding, I thought it was less likely).
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Like I said, he's not perfect, but if it were out of federal hands then I guarantee it would be legal in most states. Any religious hillbillys states would just have state crossers getting them done.
You can't contest that the Federal Government is out of hand. State power means nothing and that's, in my opinion, the worst trespass of the constitution and the root of many of the problems in the US. I mean, look at the other thread I've participated in OT, where Federal agents can arrest and close down Medical Marijuana shops at whim here in California even though it's legal by the state. How is that right?
Last edited by Good_Apollo; 03-01-2012 at 02:45 PM.
and why does anyone care about states rights?
Because the United States is ****ing huge with dynamic differences in economy, culture, and racial demographics across the states; having an all powerful federal government has created more problems than it has solved.
At this point, I'm completely convinced you're just an epic troll LP. Ignore list you go!
i love how everyone that has opposing view points is labeled as "crazy" or a troll.
kid doesnt even know what a troll really is.
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Ron paul 2012 or cc at 16. Get it? because im 16 years old hahahahahahahaha I giggled.
Maby I will cc at 17 or 18. I mean how could I miss diablo 3?
I only just noticed what Santorum said about the Netherlands.
Can't help but LOL. 10% of all deaths through euthanasia? This man is insane. It's ridiculously difficult to be voluntarily euthanized in this country if you're not terminally ill; and even then it's hard to find a doctor who is willing to do it because they have a right to refuse. People are kept alive here at all costs, even if they're 100 years old, unless they specifically requested to NOT be kept alive.
He's second in the votings right? Good God.
[QUOTE=Lhune;14956045He's second in the votings right? Good God.[/QUOTE]
Only amomg registered republicans in the republican primaries.
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