Pokemon Thread

[[RCT]Reldnahc]

I just wish they would redo a lot of the broken parts of the battling system. Iron everything out. Redo some pokemon's types, abilities, movepools, and whatnot.

[R0XAS]

Talking about legendary pokemon... How come they are considered genderless and in the game there is only one legendary that exists. But in the anime, there are more than one of the same legendary pokemon. Like the episode of baby lugia and a mother lugia.

[[JAC]ProfessorOak]

how come pokemon only have two genders

[skeloperch]

Talking about legendary pokemon... How come they are considered genderless and in the game there is only one legendary that exists. But in the anime, there are more than one of the same legendary pokemon. Like the episode of baby lugia and a mother lugia.

Certain legendaries (Manaphy, Phiona, Heatran Lati@s) have genders. Also, there are varying degrees of legendaries. Some are pokemon like Celebi, Mew, and Manaphy, of which it has been confirmed that there are several of the same pokemon, but certain legendaries, such as Kyogre, Dialga, Keldeo, and Mewtwo, are the only of their species (but it is speculated that there are more than 1 Dialga/Palkia/Giratina, since Cynthia gives you an egg, that hatches into one of them, as an event.)

Also, Troll Freak will never iron out the battling system. They are too busy trolling all pokemon fans to care. I mean, just look what they gave Delibird as a dream-world ability.

[skeloperch]

This run through of Black is gaytacular. I have this rule that, if I'm going through a pokemon game I've played before, I can't use pokemon that I've used before. So this time, I can't pick up Throh/Sawk, Sigilyph, and Vanilluxe. I started off getting Oshawott (and got him a special attacking nature), and got myself a Timburr early on. So now I have a mixed attacker and a physical wall/monstrosity. I go and grab myself Leavanny, because I really like the pokemon, and have never used a bug before. Now I have 2 physical beasts and a mixed attacker. I soon realized that there are very, very, VERY few options for me in the way of special attackers.

I had to pick up a Gothita (which was a pain in the ass to train), even though I hate the look of it and it's evolutions, because there aren't any other options. I can't pick up Maractus/Lilligant because everyone on my time (minus Conkledurr) knows grass type moves (Leaf Blade and Grass Knot). I can't use Sigilyph, and I can't find myself an Emolga, especially since they only appear on ground-shaking spots. I can't use Swanna since I already have a mixed water type, and I can't use Galvantula since my team already has a weakness to flying. Not to mention I already have a bug. There is no way in hell for me to find a Cryogonal, since they have a 1% chance of showing up in like 3 rooms. I went back to catch Cobalion and Virizion (two legendaries), but they both have a physical attack nature. My entire team is bulky, so there is no need for Jellicent/Cofagrigus, meaning that my only hope lies several routes ahead, in victory road.

Deino. Have I mentioned how much I hate Gamefreak for Deino? They made a pokemon based off of Yamata no Orochi, but they made it stay a 1st-form dragon/dark type with only physical attacks and Hustle (which lowers your accuracy). Guess how long it stays in form 1? UNTIL LEVEL 50! There is no way in hell I can beat the elite 5 with a stage one dragon with Hustle, especially since it can't special attack for **** until it hits level 64 (when it evolves into it's final stage). That is total bull ****. There are no other special attacking pokemon for me to get at this point. There are only tanks and physical attackers. Every Elite 4 member has a couple of pokemon with high physical resistance, meaning most of my team is useless (Leavanny will sweep through Caitlyn, though). I have to train my shabby 4 pokemon team to extremes so that I have a chance to face the E4. Then I have to fight Ghetsis, and his team of pokemon that eat physical attacks for breakfast (without any milk).


Tl;dr: Gamefreak pulled a fast one on me there. Gen 5 is absolutely THE worst gen to play through if you like special attackers. In Gen 4, I couldn't get anything BUT special attackers (in fact, all but one of my pokemon is a special attacker in my latest run through of Platinum). I'm going to be really mad for a couple of days when I have to continually soft-reset until I beat each E4 member through sheer luck hacks. There is no other way to get past 145 base defence (which means, by the way, that it will have higher defense than the attack of my Conkledurr).

[[IaF]lvl7bidoof]

Everytime I play pokemon

I ditch the one you start out with

They are always op and boring

[skeloperch]

Everytime I play pokemon

I ditch the one you start out with

They are always op and boring

I'll agree to boring, mostly, but OP? No way. The only OP starters are Infernape, Serperior, and Venusaur. 2 of those are because they get a bull **** Dream World ability (Serperior gets +2 special attack every time it uses a 140 base power grass type special attack, on top of having high speed and defenses already). Gen 3 is the only perfect generation, in terms of starters. At least it isn't like Gen 2 (where all three are boring and under powered).

[[TECH]Gorb]

Take that back. Cyndaquil was amazing (I'mma gonna teach him Earthquake. Why? **** and giggles). Totodile actually scaled quite well as well, at least in the Gen II games.

Disclaimer: barring Fire Red and a bit of Pearl, I haven't played iterations beyond Gen II.

[[Nasu]Emiya]

I'll agree to boring, mostly, but OP? No way. The only OP starters are Infernape, Serperior, and Venusaur. 2 of those are because they get a bull **** Dream World ability (Serperior gets +2 special attack every time it uses a 140 base power grass type special attack, on top of having high speed and defenses already). Gen 3 is the only perfect generation, in terms of starters. At least it isn't like Gen 2 (where all three are boring and under powered).

Uhh, Blaziken is extremely op.

[[TTFR]Chime]

I'll agree to boring, mostly, but OP? No way. The only OP starters are Infernape, Serperior, and Venusaur. 2 of those are because they get a bull **** Dream World ability (Serperior gets +2 special attack every time it uses a 140 base power grass type special attack, on top of having high speed and defenses already). Gen 3 is the only perfect generation, in terms of starters. At least it isn't like Gen 2 (where all three are boring and under powered).

Not choosing Blaziken in this gen will make you bound to capture certain pokemon. Eg, not choosing Blaziken, will make you have to choose a makuhita. Because there are no other fighting types, and you need them for like half the gyms. Of course, Breloom would be a nice choice for this, but you have to get Shroomish to lvl 20 before being able to do anything.

Personally, Gen 3's best starter is by far Zigzagoon. Learning headbutt at lvl 9 is just a ridiculously strong move, and he even evolves very fast. And, he can learn Belly drum and Slash and rest. So it is clearly a big powerhouse that in my case one-shot the electro gyms Magneton.

This run through of Black is gaytacular. I have this rule that, if I'm going through a pokemon game I've played before, I can't use pokemon that I've used before. So this time, I can't pick up Throh/Sawk, Sigilyph, and Vanilluxe. I started off getting Oshawott (and got him a special attacking nature), and got myself a Timburr early on. So now I have a mixed attacker and a physical wall/monstrosity. I go and grab myself Leavanny, because I really like the pokemon, and have never used a bug before. Now I have 2 physical beasts and a mixed attacker. I soon realized that there are very, very, VERY few options for me in the way of special attackers.

Have you never used bug pokemon before? They are by far the best and most badass looking pokemon in the game. Oh, and mostly, bug is Sp atk, because most people pick defense over Sp atk. And if someone picks Sp def, it is mostly because they are weak against bug types, which means most pokemon that have high Sp def are vulnerable to bug. You should really give a Sp atk Mothim a chance, i just trained one to 89 and he completely destroys everything. Mothim is generally one of my new favourite pokemon.

[Bobble]

Not choosing Blaziken in this gen will make you bound to capture certain pokemon. Eg, not choosing Blaziken, will make you have to choose a makuhita. Because there are no other fighting types, and you need them for like half the gyms. Of course, Breloom would be a nice choice for this, but you have to get Shroomish to lvl 20 before being able to do anything.

Personally, Gen 3's best starter is by far Zigzagoon. Learning headbutt at lvl 9 is just a ridiculously strong move, and he even evolves very fast. And, he can learn Belly drum and Slash and rest. So it is clearly a big powerhouse that in my case one-shot the electro gyms Magneton.



Have you never used bug pokemon before? They are by far the best and most badass looking pokemon in the game. Oh, and mostly, bug is Sp atk, because most people pick defense over Sp atk. And if someone picks Sp def, it is mostly because they are weak against bug types, which means most pokemon that have high Sp def are vulnerable to bug. You should really give a Sp atk Mothim a chance, i just trained one to 89 and he completely destroys everything. Mothim is generally one of my new favourite pokemon.

Bug mostly special attack? God no. Seriously, the only two bug pokemon you will ever need are Heracross and Scizor, and of course, Forretress for your spin and hazards. Add Pinsir and Armaldo to the list and it's all good.

Unless it's exclusive Gen 5, in which case you'd only have Galvantula and Volcarona.

[DetarBIG]

Charizard <3
Now THAT was a powerhouse in blue/red :P

Shame you can only get him by trading etc, in the newer ones.. especially for a person that plays pokemon on an emulator :P

Yes, I'm cheap, I'm a ****ing student, what to do.

[[TTFR]Chime]

Bug mostly special attack? God no. Seriously, the only two bug pokemon you will ever need are Heracross and Scizor, and of course, Forretress for your spin and hazards. Add Pinsir and Armaldo to the list and it's all good.

Unless it's exclusive Gen 5, in which case you'd only have Galvantula and Volcarona.

Well, now it is so that this aint gen 1 or 2 anymore. :/ While i would like to say that bug should be used as physical, my friends (and i have a lot of them) havent beaten my bug team yet. Believe me or not, bug should be dealth with as special attack, unless of course you got bugs that suck at Sp atk. And Heracross isnt a good pokemon. Once the enemy sends out a flying type, you are guaranteed to be ****ed.

Now, as said, Mothims are pretty strong, but thats because they have allround stats. Many people expect bugs to be physical, and i completely understand that. But when you suddenly get a bug buzz that can oneshot an enemy team, they wont know what to do.

[skeloperch]

Not choosing Blaziken in this gen will make you bound to capture certain pokemon. Eg, not choosing Blaziken, will make you have to choose a makuhita. Because there are no other fighting types, and you need them for like half the gyms. Of course, Breloom would be a nice choice for this, but you have to get Shroomish to lvl 20 before being able to do anything.

Level 20 is a decent level to evolve, especially since Breloom is a final evolution, and is really, really strong. You can also pick up a Machop. Besides, you don't need fighting types. Water/Grass also work against rock, the 5th gen is easy enough with either starter, and can be countered by the plethora of ghosts in this generation (albeit, it is a little tricky to get Banette/Dusclops at that point, but that doesn't rule out Sableye). Then there is the psychic gym and water gym, both of which counter Blaziken (Kingdra ho!). You can have a fine run without Blaziken. Disclaimer: a lot of pokemon learn fighting type moves this generation. Brick Break, Cross Chop, and etc. are all pretty common.

Personally, Gen 3's best starter is by far Zigzagoon. Learning headbutt at lvl 9 is just a ridiculously strong move, and he even evolves very fast. And, he can learn Belly drum and Slash and rest. So it is clearly a big powerhouse that in my case one-shot the electro gyms Magneton.

That's more of an early game pokemon than anything. And yes, I absolutely love Linoone. I used one on my competitive team until it lost Extreme Speed in Gen 5. Other than him, Ralts learns confusion early on, and Slackoth can learn slash early on. Besides, the game also balances out physical and special attackers quite well. Early on you can pick up a Wingull, Ralts, and Surskit all in before the 1st gym. Later, you can also pick up a Sableye, magnemite, Electrike, Whismur, Plusle, Minun, and Oddish. Even later, you get Wailord/Wailmer, Gorbyss, Pikachu, Chimecho, Roselia, and Illumise. There is always a couple of special pokemon thrown into the physical crowd.

Have you never used bug pokemon before? They are by far the best and most badass looking pokemon in the game. Oh, and mostly, bug is Sp atk, because most people pick defense over Sp atk. And if someone picks Sp def, it is mostly because they are weak against bug types, which means most pokemon that have high Sp def are vulnerable to bug. You should really give a Sp atk Mothim a chance, i just trained one to 89 and he completely destroys everything. Mothim is generally one of my new favourite pokemon.

Bugs are mostly physical attackers nowadays because of X-Scissor and U-turn. Plus, most of the good bug pokemon are physical (Escalvier, Scizzor, Heracross, Armaldo, and etc). The only special attacking bugs that are ever used are Illumise, Vespiqueen, Volcarona, and Masquerain. Besides, Mothim kinda sucks, even though I like using him. I even go so far as to use Kricketune and Parasect (I have this really baller Parasect that moves at 9000 Sanics per Shazbot, and it uses Spore-X-Scissor rape to kill anyone). Gen 5 drastically buffed bugs, like Gen 4 buffed Rock, and Gen 3 buffed Ghost. Hopefully Flying and Poison get buffed next, because they REALLY need it.


Anyways, Blaziken isn't considered OP anymore guise. He gets hardcountered by Pringles-Jellyfish, and Azumarill can one-shot him. He's basically a fire-fighting version of Ninjask at this point, which is only good because he doesn't get his anus pounded in by sneaky stones.

Well, now it is so that this aint gen 1 or 2 anymore. :/ While i would like to say that bug should be used as physical, my friends (and i have a lot of them) havent beaten my bug team yet. Believe me or not, bug should be dealth with as special attack, unless of course you got bugs that suck at Sp atk. And Heracross isnt a good pokemon. Once the enemy sends out a flying type, you are guaranteed to be ****ed.

No. Heracross can switch out anyways. Flying types are god awful, too. The only really strong Flying types out there are Skarmory, who is a wall, Gyarados, who won't use a flying type move ever, Staraptor, who is a legitimate threat, and Tornadus/Thundurus, who are legendaries. Edit: There is also Durgonknight, who is good mainly because of Multi-scale, but a legit flying threat, Gliscor, who plays off of poison and ground, rather than flying, and Landorus, who is the third in the legendary kami trio. Flying and Poison are kinda awful types at this time.

[KingIsRey]

Take that back. I love my Brave Bird Crobat.

[Bobble]

Can't believe old Breloom has so many options these days. I used to remember playing the average Spore, Focus Punch, Substitute and Seed Bomb, and thinking I was really inventive until I noticed it was the most basic thing you can do with him. I'm still having trouble on figuring out why they gave him Technician.

Well, now it is so that this aint gen 1 or 2 anymore. :/ While i would like to say that bug should be used as physical, my friends (and i have a lot of them) havent beaten my bug team yet. Believe me or not, bug should be dealth with as special attack, unless of course you got bugs that suck at Sp atk. And Heracross isnt a good pokemon. Once the enemy sends out a flying type, you are guaranteed to be ****ed.

Now, as said, Mothims are pretty strong, but thats because they have allround stats. Many people expect bugs to be physical, and i completely understand that. But when you suddenly get a bug buzz that can oneshot an enemy team, they wont know what to do.

Heracross came into his own in gen 4, mostly, and he's still a solid choice today. And Flying types? Give Heracross a Choice scarf (which is common on him if you don't want the guaranteed Guts boost) and Stone Edge, and he can hold his own very well.

And people expect that physicality from bugs because of Technician Scizor, who is still as beast as he was since Platinum. Love that guy.

[[Loli]Gohka]

Scizor da best.

[[TTFR]Chime]

Linoone is better.

[[Loli]Blueflash]

Kids, Kids we all know Gardevoir's the best.

[[f13]SomethingOdd]

Gen 6 has been in my nightmares lately, it would be terrible.