Farming Mentality

[Ponthos]

So, since I started playing I have played support and more item-indepedent gankers, by sugestion of a friend. After a few months I have developed a support mentality - never taking a last hits from a lane partner, ganking alot, always being there for the team and warding.

However I want to diversify and start playing more item-dependent ganker and semi-carries. However I cannot maintain a good GPM and farme efficiently. I always find myself roaming everywhere but not actually farming.

So what could I do to get out of the support mentality and gain a farm mentality so I can properly play other heroes?

What should I do in early, mid and late game to increase my farm?

And lastly a specific question. In one game I was Aluna, Legion side top. Around 10 minutes an enemy Ramp started ganking and it really hurt my farm, as I had to hug tower and the creep wave never pushed near me. What could I do in that situation?

Note: I have decent last hit skills, as I train in prectice mode.

Thank you in advance

[Katieeee]

I'm sort of in this stage too, but my GPM on certain heroes is really getting up there as I practice.

At the pick screen, make sure you have a lane mate that can do a good enough job harassing the enemy to get the most out of your laning. Usually, it's a support like DSham, Glac, Monarch, etc., but I've had a Rampage baby-sit me in a no stats well (I gave him my regen as needed since he was doing a solid job). Just make sure you have a planned lane.

When it comes to laning, take advantage of enemies being level 1. That means it'll be alright to take some harass to get a few early easy last hits. Remember, last hits on enemy creeps take much higher priority than denies! If you're a melee carry, use that hatchet, it will help get you a lot!

And when people start missing from lanes, keep your eyes and ears open.

When mid game comes, this is when you need to keep moving to safe spots to farm. This includes always having a TP and reminding your support(s) to keep wards up. Your supports should also be asked to stack jungle depending on your hero and your items progress (once you get that Runed Axe on melee heroes, ask for triple stacks when possible).

Also have to remember farming in the lane is priority to the jungle.

In late, you should have enough items to start making a major difference in team fights if you've done well, but you should be the last one to enter fights. While you wait, keep farming! Don't stop and run around with your team!

Counter to Rampage is wards and a TP. If Rampage charges you and you still have a lot of HP and mana, just tell your team he's coming for you and then TP to a safer lane to farm. If he's really persistent, consider going tri-lane mode. But whichever way you take, make sure you're always farming. The more time you spend not farming, the more you're hurting your team's potential in the long-run.

Edit - I suggest watching AngryTestie's stream. He is infamous for how much ricing he does! Watch his movements around the map. He's so good at finding the right places to farm that he pretty much never stops getting gold at crazy rates!

[[999]colondee]

If you want a short way to 1600, play solo plague lane with a jungling partner. The game under 1500 is so absurd it rarely lety you learn good decisions. Leave that 1300 league for scrubs who dont wanna learn. Dont expect others to be even thinking about how to play

[[iOC]subpop]

Rule #1: Don't die, I repeat DO NOT DIE. This sounds harder than it actually is, playing like a girl and stay on the outskirts of the battle until you can score an easy kill.

Rule #2: Go mid. Last hitting against 1 opponent is easier than last hitting against your opponents as well as your team mates.

Rule #3: Stack the jungle, this is NOT optional. Running around the jungle killing single stacked camps takes longer than killing 15 creeps and is less profitable.

[DeepWaters]

I'm sort of in this stage too, but my GPM on certain heroes is really getting up there as I practice.

At the pick screen, make sure you have a lane mate that can do a good enough job harassing the enemy to get the most out of your laning. Usually, it's a support like DSham, Glac, Monarch, etc., but I've had a Rampage baby-sit me in a no stats well (I gave him my regen as needed since he was doing a solid job). Just make sure you have a planned lane.

When it comes to laning, take advantage of enemies being level 1. That means it'll be alright to take some harass to get a few early easy last hits. Remember, last hits on enemy creeps take much higher priority than denies! If you're a melee carry, use that hatchet, it will help get you a lot!

And when people start missing from lanes, keep your eyes and ears open.

When mid game comes, this is when you need to keep moving to safe spots to farm. This includes always having a TP and reminding your support(s) to keep wards up. Your supports should also be asked to stack jungle depending on your hero and your items progress (once you get that Runed Axe on melee heroes, ask for triple stacks when possible).

Also have to remember farming in the lane is priority to the jungle.

In late, you should have enough items to start making a major difference in team fights if you've done well, but you should be the last one to enter fights. While you wait, keep farming! Don't stop and run around with your team!

Counter to Rampage is wards and a TP. If Rampage charges you and you still have a lot of HP and mana, just tell your team he's coming for you and then TP to a safer lane to farm. If he's really persistent, consider going tri-lane mode. But whichever way you take, make sure you're always farming. The more time you spend not farming, the more you're hurting your team's potential in the long-run.

Edit - I suggest watching AngryTestie's stream. He is infamous for how much ricing he does! Watch his movements around the map. He's so good at finding the right places to farm that he pretty much never stops getting gold at crazy rates!

I would say a very big no. When i lane against mageabane or flint or any other carry i will deny EVERYTHING. And what if hes a solo PR against a MB torturer lane? He should deny everything even if it means no last hits.

Other then that solid advices. The only way to learn to farm is to see it for yourself, im afraid.

[MasterGeese]

Early game: A few good benchmarks:

You should be able to get at least 90% of the creeps if you are completely freefarming. (36+ in 5 minutes)

You should be able to get at least 70% of the creeps if you are winning your lane by a sizable margin. (28+ in 5 minutes)

You should aim to get at least 50% of the creeps if it is an even matchup. (20+ in 5 minutes)

Don't fret too much if you don't get these, though. Dying hurts you MUCH more than not getting a silly creep kill.

Midgame: As others have said, always be looking for a place to farm. Use AoE skills to kill groups of creeps faster. Team up with a buddy or two and gank the opposing team's forest, taking the neutral camps if there's nobody there. Oh, and try to stay alive. This will put you back more than roaming all game will.

Lategame: Pretty much the same as midgame, with more wards needed, since your towers are probably gone by now.

As for the Rampage question, you should have wards up, one enemy tower ward and both runes if at all possible. If mid knows what he's doing, he'll TP to your lane to countergank. All-in-all, rampage is, indeed, very annoying, and the only way to get farm with him around is LOTS of wards and being where he is not.