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  1. #1

    Maelstrom Blade



    Gloves of the Swift:
    500 Gold
    +15 Attack Speed



    Broadsword: 1200 Gold
    +18 Damage


    Steamstaff: 800 Gold
    +12 Damage
    +10 Attack Speed

    Recipe: 750 Gold

    Maelstrom Blade
    : 3250 Gold

    +30 Attack Speed
    +50 Damage
    +Maelstrom
    -->Every fifth melee or ranged attack will instantly reset the cooldown of your next attack. This counter will reset after 20 seconds of not hitting an enemy.
    1 second internal cooldown upon resetting the cooldown of your attack.
    Last edited by GGWentworth; 01-19-2012 at 06:27 PM.

  2. #2
    The idea seems nice,but we should know if this item would be viable to buy on a real game.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by GGWentworth View Post

    Maelstrom Blade
    : 3250 Gold

    +30 Attack Speed
    +50 Damage
    +Maelstrom
    -->Every fifth melee or ranged attack will instantly reset the cooldown of your next attack. This counter will reset after 20 seconds of not hitting an enemy.
    1 second internal cooldown upon resetting the cooldown of your attack.
    Cheaper than :SwordOfTheHigh:
    better effect
    easier buildup

    Hell no.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Smichi View Post
    Cheaper than :SwordOfTheHigh:
    better effect
    easier buildup

    Hell no.
    I honestly can't believe you're comparing a recipe item to Sacred Relic, but anyways you really don't have a point.

    Shield Breaker level 2.

    3400 Gold, +55 damage -4 armor,

    Runed Cleaver

    4150 Gold, +60 Damage +40% Splash +Regen

    Sword of the High

    3400 Gold, +60 damage

    Maelstrom Blade

    3250 Gold, +50 damage, +30 attack speed, +Maelstrom

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    I liked this idea, gives 1 more way to carry this game, could be a nice pick for diverse heroes like for exemple:
    Kraken, Gemini, Chronos
    Recipe cost need to be increased since your suggestion have a similar 20% chance to proc and more 30% attack speed more than Riftshards lv 2.

  6. #6
    No ty. Easy to build, giving you like crazy ass more dmg output.

    Heroes like puppet, swift, scout, chronos would profit toooooo much from this.

  7. #7
    I just made a very similar item to this prior to seeing this, except mine used sword of the high in the recipe because this effect is RIDICULOUS in dps boost statistics. Not a bad idea but simply too overpowered.
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by GGWentworth View Post
    I honestly can't believe you're comparing a recipe item to Sacred Relic, but anyways you really don't have a point.
    Why not? It seems a perfectly valid comparison. Especially since sacred relic has to be paid for all in one shot, while this can be built up (thereby securing some gold!) and gives a better return for less.

    Quote Originally Posted by GGWentworth View Post
    Shield Breaker level 2.

    3400 Gold, +55 damage -4 armor,

    Runed Cleaver

    4150 Gold, +60 Damage +40% Splash +Regen

    Sword of the High

    3400 Gold, +60 damage

    Maelstrom Blade

    3250 Gold, +50 damage, +30 attack speed, +Maelstrom

    You're just showing that your item is cheaper than all mid game alternatives, and significantly better.

    I recommend taking some of the positive effects out of the recipe. Just look at what you're getting for that tiny cost.

    Sum of parts - 2500 gold, 3 item slots
    ------------
    30 damage
    25 attack speed


    Recipe - 750 gold, -2 item slots
    ------------
    20 damage
    5 attack speed
    passive


    The effect alone is worth more than 750 gold. In addition you're giving 2 item slots, 20 damage and 5 attack speed.

    I would rework this a bit, because I would LOVE to see something like this in the game.

    I know it isn't always desirable to lose attributes when a recipe is built, but I think with your current components it is going to be necessary. I provide two options!

    Option 1 (3250 gold)
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    Components:

    :Broadsword: (1200 gold)
    :Steamstaff: (800 gold)
    Recipe (1250 gold)

    Stats:

    30 damage 10 attack speed, passive


    Option 2 (3250 gold)
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    Components:

    :Broadsword: (1200 gold)
    :Steamstaff: (800 gold)
    :GlovesOfTheSwift: (500 gold)
    Recipe (750 gold)

    Stats:

    30 damage 10 attack speed, passive


    In one case the item gets pretty recipe heavy, which is not desirable
    In the other, the item loses some of the effects from the components, which is also not desirable.

    A third option would be

    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    mine used sword of the high in the recipe because this effect is RIDICULOUS in dps boost statistics.
    Use a stronger item for getting this effect. However, it does remove the item as a mid game option.

    Components: (4500 gold)

    :Slayer: (2200 gold)
    :Steamstaff: (800 gold)
    :GlovesOfTheSwift: (500 gold)
    Recipe (1000 gold)


    Stats:

    58 damage, 25 attack speed, passive

    Still the sum of its parts, plus the passive as a bonus for the recipe (still felt like it should be more expensive, given that now the item is adding more that can benefit from its own passive ), but removes the item as a mid game item.


    It looks as though currently your item has it all, when it can't . I'm sorry to you and your item, but we can make it work!

  9. #9
    I really like the item, though I think it's more of a late game item than a mid game item.
    The cost could easily be upped by 500-1000 gold, without doing anything else to the item.

    Kraken, Chronos and Puppet would really benefit a lot from this item with their procs.

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    I actually like the item but I do most definitely agree that the bonus damage at least is way too high considering the bonus effect and how well it scales.

    I also think this would strongly benefit from having multiple ranks.

    Example: Rank 1 is 8 attacks to proc it, rank 2 is 5.
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    each 5 attack you got a free 6th...
    So, for 5 attack you got 6...
    it is the same thing as +20 Attack Speed...
    Also the recipe is great...
    Try to ameliorate it... and this item could be really great...

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