Higher Tier Tips and Tricks || Learn to not suck at HoN!

[[5nK]Nytemair]

Awesome feedback, I'll add in the tips you guys gave me.

The observatory thing still works, I used it yesterday in a 1v1 with a friend.

[levo]

Nice guide, you can also add the denying of the creeps with skills such as at the start of the game for xp advantage, or shutting down the opposing carry lane with either of these heroes, which quite used in high tier.

and btw I tried it in a game messmerize makes you immune to hooks when he about to hook

thanks for enlightening our community.

[RiCERSKiBET]

In regards to Gladiator, I would like to add, that showdown at level 2, fits your pitfall perfectly. You can cast Shwodown (level 2), quickly followed by a pitfall at the same place, and the enemy will be returned to the mark as the pitfall "explodes". Very good tip for beginners to hit the pitfall.

I liked this guide, as it had loads of things I don't take into consideration when i play, even though I'm an avid HoN/DotA player.

[[5nK]Nytemair]

Nice guide, you can also add the denying of the creeps with skills such as at the start of the game for xp advantage, or shutting down the opposing carry lane with either of these heroes, which quite used in high tier.

Thanks, I'll add them in.

and btw I tried it in a game messmerize makes you immune to hooks when he about to hook

thanks for enlightening our community.

Thank you for the lovely feedback!

In regards to Gladiator, I would like to add, that showdown at level 2, fits your pitfall perfectly. You can cast Shwodown (level 2), quickly followed by a pitfall at the same place, and the enemy will be returned to the mark as the pitfall "explodes". Very good tip for beginners to hit the pitfall.

*Facepalms* I can't believe I forgot that one, thanks for reminding me.

[[SBT]Rkey]

Just a note: Please don't tell people to push-stick people out of tempest ult: push tempest instead and cancel the channeling.

[[TL]Suture]

A few good things to add.

Tablet of Command counters slowdependant melee heroes like Predator. He leaps, you tablet, he can't catch you again til his leap is off CD. Get 2 Tablets and you can effectively kite Predator around for as long as you want.

Andromedas ulti can be used to save people from combo dependant heroes like Pebbles or Fayde since you can swap targets midair, negating the doubledamage combo and only taking part of the stun yourself when you swap yourself in.

Self denies do not count as deaths, this means that if you get 15-5 with devourer but you had 5 self denies, you actually got an immortal (streaks will continue) and in the stats screen after the game, you will have 15-0. Same goes for Accursed.

Malikens sword toss is longer range than most escape mechanisms. Instead of initiating with sword vs heroes like Valk, walk in and ulti, when she leaps, toss the sword in the direction she leaped and you'll catch her every time.

Got more but this will do for now :P

[[TeVs]Tommo]

This is an undeniably amazing thread.

[[5nK]Nytemair]

Just a note: Please don't tell people to push-stick people out of tempest ult: push tempest instead and cancel the channeling.

It was more directed towards pulling heroes with Physical or Superior stuns out of a Tempest Ult when he's using Shrunken Head and can't be stunned magically. :P

A few good things to add.

Tablet of Command counters slowdependant melee heroes like Predator. He leaps, you tablet, he can't catch you again til his leap is off CD. Get 2 Tablets and you can effectively kite Predator around for as long as you want.

Andromedas ulti can be used to save people from combo dependant heroes like Pebbles or Fayde since you can swap targets midair, negating the doubledamage combo and only taking part of the stun yourself when you swap yourself in.

Self denies do not count as deaths, this means that if you get 15-5 with devourer but you had 5 self denies, you actually got an immortal (streaks will continue) and in the stats screen after the game, you will have 15-0. Same goes for Accursed.

Malikens sword toss is longer range than most escape mechanisms. Instead of initiating with sword vs heroes like Valk, walk in and ulti, when she leaps, toss the sword in the direction she leaped and you'll catch her every time.

Got more but this will do for now :P

I shall add zem when I get the chance!

This is an undeniably amazing thread.

Thank you, these sorts of comments make it all worthwhile. =]

[Incog`]

Pretty sure nighthound leaping to runes was patched.

[[SBT]Rkey]

Pretty sure nighthound leaping to runes was patched.

Yup, 4char

[[SBT]Rkey]

Also, I would like to add that if you port to shiver (tundras bird) while shiver is invisible, the porting animation wont show and you will just "appear" for the enemy, wherever you want.

[Spathi]

As Plague Rider, if you're interested in pulling (as in the opposite of pushing) the lane, then it's best to deny the ranged creep. It denies the enemies slightly less experience and having less HP gives you less mana, but ranged creeps deal more damage and always die last in a wave, thus they push the lane the most.

[[MGUS]Mocca]

NH can longer pounce to runes (one of the biiig balance changes on the last patch!!!).

btw: - You can dominate an unlimited amount of creeps with helm of the dominator. Especially in very long termed games, it can be fun to suddenly show up with your Minotaur army!!!

[[RoTV]_Legion_Fire]

Good tips but i have a question about taking cover and pk away.When u use take cover it last 2.5 secs. and to pk away after an attack takes 3 secs. if i remember right. That gives a gap of .5 secs wich kinda matter if u are stuck in the middle of the battle

[[BDIZ]Manwich]

Nice Guide man enjoyed the read!! Keep going! Unfortunatly i can see how the update gaps are becoming bigger = / i dont believe that this is all ^^

Good tips but i have a question about taking cover and pk away.When u use take cover it last 2.5 secs. and to pk away after an attack takes 3 secs. if i remember right. That gives a gap of .5 secs wich kinda matter if u are stuck in the middle of the battle

Wanted to say the same! That was a huge nerf to bubbles =/

Is it worth mentioning that Heros with blink like Magebane or Hag but also all Heros with PK can always just jump into the "Sidewoods" and Tp away!
So not just heros like Sandwraith but everyone with a blink as well!
Coming up with more asap as i find the time ^^

so long

[[5nK]Nytemair]

I won't be updating this any more because I quit this game as it descends further into a money-grabbing trash-fest.

Mods feel free to delete or give permission for others to edit, I'll be back when the map-editor is released (so probably never).

[Hanthion]

I'm going to continue with Nytemair's work.

I'll copy and paste all of the information from his OP (eventually) into the thread I've been working on
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...neral-HoN-tips

Don't expect my thread to be exactly the same, I'm going to customize it my own way but all of Nytemair's info will be there.

[[BU5K]slippynutz]

If the enemy hides into woods and you follow him "a + left klick" to instant attack him if he comes into sight

[[5nK]Nytemair]

I'm going to continue with Nytemair's work.

I'll copy and paste all of the information from his OP (eventually) into the thread I've been working on
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...neral-HoN-tips

Don't expect my thread to be exactly the same, I'm going to customize it my own way but all of Nytemair's info will be there.

Good luck with the thread.