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It's a total newb game, because my MMR/PSR is low atm.
So I was playing Hammerstorm, and after a while (15ish min in) the guys on my team started these random unplanned teambattles in the bot lane, they started dying one by one all the time, maybe they got a few kills it does not matter, this lasted for 5 minutes, they continously spawned and ran down to bot lane and fought and died again and again, while I thought these guys must be retarded, that is not how you play the game, so I was just going solo style farming up in the other lanes, then they started complaining and told me I am of no use, I am a ****ing noob, I am retarded and because of me they are dying down at bot lane. They blamed me for losing the match and after the game they wrote "ofcourse, look at his K/D ratio." I said "the game is not about K/D, I play a lot of support." These guys had around 1/1 K/D ratio and most have never used a single ward ever, according to the stats.
I was the lowest level throughout, because we had such a weird setup. At the start of the game I was laning at top with Emerald, she stole all the creep gold and didnt harass at all, so I could not do anything, because I would get ganked or harrased.
Please check out the game for me, see if I am such a big noob as they told me I am. This was a bad game for me because of the general NOOB factor. I have played this game for years, I know what to do, generally.
This is the Match ID: 74453083
ok im watching the match right now and biggest mistake i saw till minute 2 was skilling mighty swing. you even deactive it, why skill it then.
Ignore that skill on hammer its super bad. Just go STun and stats early on OR stun - third ability - stun - stats - stun - ult- stun- stats - ...
you take some unnecessary hits from arachna without you doing anything, stand back more. You starting items are odd IMO. Get +3 str and + 3 int for a fast chalice.
Your last hitting is bad, try to improve it, if needed get a logger(even though in this lane ew should take the farm). But some creeps EW obvioulsy would not get so you could have taken them but did not.(till 5 mins in).
That EW is pretty bad though. rofl at her double punch daggers ahahahaha.
at around 6:30 both of you hug tower out of xp range. WHAT THE F?
Why dont you use the courier to get some health and mana and get back on track?! you just waste time, farm and xp. Both of you but you too.
I mean even going back to fountain would be better than to stay on lane with below half hpand no mana. You cant do anything then.
Of course that EW is epically bad.
Mana battery versus deadwood and araachna is not worth it. Chalice all the way man.
At minute 8:30 deadwood runs off to mid, you chase him a bit meanwhile arachna is solo versus potentially you both. Why dont you kill her then? tell your EW to come with you stun arachna and gg.
The gank on mid was okayish but no point ganking fayde with such a health pool without counterwards. Furthermore did you waste alot of time waiting. That slither did not pull the lane to him though, so kinda his fault. Still, ALWAYS carry a tp especially as hammer, because you are a ganker and you could have perma ganked bot if im not mistaken.
you had boots at 11 mins and 400 gold, why not turn them into striders with courier? that way you waste not so much time running around(see, tp is awesome again).
12 mis in you are absolutely wasting your time you can not kill anyone alone anyway especially not deadwood you do not farm you just sneak some xp, meanwhile your team dies bot. No surprise they are mad at you.
Get a tp and port bot next time.
Hammers role is that of a GANKER not a carry or something. So you need to tp around/walk around and gank people.
Getting underleveled as hammer isnt too bad if you play your role.
at 14:40 you farm too deep into their lane without wards. Then you die. No surprise. Dont go that far without wards, period.
Even higher rated player make that mistake. It justs invites your enemies to gank you.
your steam boots really make you get even less farm man. You got scout, i dont know why you went steam boots(which are kinda carry boots for hammer).
at 16:35 you stun armadon but get too close to your enemies, glacius freezes you and you die. You overplayed or rather overextended. Should have stunned, watched your team then went back.
You guys have no wards at the bot lane. If nobody gets them, you can do that as hammer, as annoying it might seem. Its better then the whole team dying to ganks. and yes those eyes are nice but IMO not a replace for proper wards.
at 18:50 scout flames you for farming mid and he is correct. 3 are bot you got no wards around mid they could easily gank you there and as mentioned you could gank those 3 bot.
Ok will stop watching here, because you seriously need to reconsider your way of playing hammer. he is not a farmer he is a support ganker. When you farm top your team dies on the bot lane as you have mentioned. I dont know why you havent ported bot. you have no tps all game long which is VERY bad. Always carrying a tp makes your mmr go up by at least 50, and i am serious.
Next time get striders. chalice and farm a portal key. Thats how you play hammer usually. Of course if the game is different adapt.
Ok. So if you leave a game, you are sent an AIDS needle. Additionally, you get +1 disconnect AND are forced to play as Kongor next game. You can't leave his lair, except when a rune spawns. You must run directly to the rune (still as Kongor) and guard it. If you do not do this, then HoN immediately shuts down and formats your hard drive and injects you with the AIDS needle.
ok one last thing:
so you ganked bot finally and they had wards their(which you should consider, but whatever).
You stun glacius and armadon.
Guess which hero scout and you attack? YEPP, Armadon i dont know what to say. Glacius was at half life at best you could have killed him, but you went for armadon, glacius freezes you and all get away.
edit: meanwhile you have your mighty swing still turned off. WTF?
Ok. So if you leave a game, you are sent an AIDS needle. Additionally, you get +1 disconnect AND are forced to play as Kongor next game. You can't leave his lair, except when a rune spawns. You must run directly to the rune (still as Kongor) and guard it. If you do not do this, then HoN immediately shuts down and formats your hard drive and injects you with the AIDS needle.
Don't go striders unless you're pure support hammer.
dont play hammer if you dont play gank support hammer. Carry hammer is terrible.Originally Posted by AdolfGlitchr
Ok. So if you leave a game, you are sent an AIDS needle. Additionally, you get +1 disconnect AND are forced to play as Kongor next game. You can't leave his lair, except when a rune spawns. You must run directly to the rune (still as Kongor) and guard it. If you do not do this, then HoN immediately shuts down and formats your hard drive and injects you with the AIDS needle.
Buy a TP, port bottom, come in from behind with pro hammer stun, turn the game around. That is what you should have done.
You said you were solo farming it up in other lanes, so how did you end up lowest level? Either your bad at farming or you missed way too many teamfights. You may not have been the only reason your team lost, but you certainly could have been more help.
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Ok. So if you leave a game, you are sent an AIDS needle. Additionally, you get +1 disconnect AND are forced to play as Kongor next game. You can't leave his lair, except when a rune spawns. You must run directly to the rune (still as Kongor) and guard it. If you do not do this, then HoN immediately shuts down and formats your hard drive and injects you with the AIDS needle.
Alright thank you VERY much, I will get striders the next time, and a Tp or 2 in my inventory, maybe even a ward, all game I felt to slow, I could not reach anywhere, but now I know how to get speedy
I did not know when the AOE damage passive was on or off, so I just clicked it and took my chance that it was activated.
I was in a hurry at the time so I just picked a skill, I regreted it later.
The mana battery.. I picked it because Blood chacile looks terrible in my eyes, it kills your HP and I think it is a better choice to get mana battery, or even manatube because you can upgrade it into a lot of stuff!
I stunned armadon because I saw scout was going for him, so I just tried to get him down, even though I knew glacius was a better target.
blood chalice is THE Item to get on hammer early game. Get runes of blight to reg some health if needed. Mana battery came in handy vs armadon, but i thats more a laning pickup IMO.
No, seriously ALWAYS carry a tp(after getting starting items of course). Always.
Ok. So if you leave a game, you are sent an AIDS needle. Additionally, you get +1 disconnect AND are forced to play as Kongor next game. You can't leave his lair, except when a rune spawns. You must run directly to the rune (still as Kongor) and guard it. If you do not do this, then HoN immediately shuts down and formats your hard drive and injects you with the AIDS needle.
thats not what i meant:
you stunned BOTH which is great, but afterwards you and your team tried to kill armadon and not glacius who would have been dead if you had gone for him.
Ok. So if you leave a game, you are sent an AIDS needle. Additionally, you get +1 disconnect AND are forced to play as Kongor next game. You can't leave his lair, except when a rune spawns. You must run directly to the rune (still as Kongor) and guard it. If you do not do this, then HoN immediately shuts down and formats your hard drive and injects you with the AIDS needle.
Hammer does not necessarily need striders. If your early farm is ok get Steams since Hammer benefits quite a lot from them. And btw there is something in between Support Gank Hammer with Striders and Carry Hammer with Steams.
Steamboots -> Solsbulwark -> riftshards HERPDERP
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?p=14134792#post14134792
Hero concepts and quick drafts.
Only scrubs chase and run down arma first. Obviously that scout mustve been retarded like most usual scouts...
Yes, he was mentally hindered.
Steamboots > 2 bracers > pk > shrunken > riftshards > frostwolf's > abyssal / heart
its match making not "play now". yes i agree with them, you're indeed a noob. if i got a person like you in my i would have just disconnected and try to find a new game. no offence
I did not watch the match the replay but i have a few general comments.
1.in 99% of cases chalice is a must on hammer. Yes it reduces your HP but stunning a group of enemies can save your life or more importantly get a kill for the team. (also hammer is a strength character so he will have naturally increased HP and HP regen.)
2.Your stun is the best skill. After leveling your armor once (mainly for extra movement speed you must put points in stun and in stats. It will help you survive and stun more as well.
3.Dont go striders. Its very rare when its a good idea. You should go steamboots. If you went Chalice then it will help you regen HP better as well.
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I remember some problems I had when I was a noob. I didnt even notice I was doing it, so always be aware.
1) not being aware of whats going on in other lanes. you can *trust* others to call miss or you can look at the minimap every 3 seconds. It becomes second nature after a while.
2) not buying wards when my support isnt doing their job.
3) dying, then tp'ing right in *just* when your last teammate dies and they still have 2+ people alive.
4) run to a lane, they retreat and gank doesnt happen, rinse and repeat, general running up and down without getting a gank off.
seriously, if you took your time to get to another lane you lost gold and exp, you NEED to gank to not fall behind. if your mates fail to -> set up a gank, it sucks
lol'd, win gonna use this as sig
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Build 6 pairs of steamboots and set all on str. Then win the game.
Mighty Swing isn't a bad skill on Hammerstorm. Yes, he's a support, however, that doesn't mean he cannot make good use of farm, and Mighty Swing helps you get it. It also increases the amount of damage you do in team fights.
Never get Striders on any hero unless they're a hard support.
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