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Thread: RAP 2.1 additions and changes
Why don't you just block RAP privileges on false reports for 1-2 weeks or x amount of games?
If the case was indeed innocent, the reporter now has to rethink the types of tickets he submits in the future and won't flood your system for 1-2 weeks. If the case is disputable, people can bring it into the RAP forums and we get a better understanding of grey areas.
I have nothing more to add other than what's already being said, timers and increase coin costs won't prevent false reports-- it prevents all reports. RAP 2.0 will only reward griefers in the long run.
I would like to see [GM]IsmaelVeraOriginally Posted by IsmaelVera
Not quite. Consider the vast amount of reports being made, and how that, before, many were innocent, rage induced, trolling, or misinformed reports. This means that many people would be losing coins and potentially losing the privilege because they not in a right state of mind and because they were overlooking the rules. It doesn't matter if at the END of the game you are SURE of it.
Not only would this reduce the population mean of reports being made, it would increase the population average of successful reports, and make more time for GMs to do reports that are actually guilty.
I for one did not know that just a few insults were not bannable, and this new explanation saves me the trouble of reporting someone that doesn't deserve it. In fact, this is a way to reduce "troll baiting" as well, a term I am sure you have seen before.
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Since I am seeing so many posts regarding this -(AFK)- and people don't seem to get it; heres the rub.
No one is forced to continue playing a game that they have joined. They are ALWAYS free to leave or go AFK (allowing themselves to be AFK voted). Both of these results in the person receiving a leave, which is a punishment in its own right. I have had to leave more than one game when something important comes up unexpectedly. Avoiding the AFK detection is griefing, but I'll repeat GOING AFK IS NOT bannable.
I'm not sure you thought that statement through.there is no excuse for afking
Example: Day off of work and nothing to do! Lets play a game of HoN. 22 minutes in my employer calls and says they need me to come in ASAP and fix a situation. The correct choice is to go AFK/Close HoN and respond to your employer.
I've personally seen that happen a few times along with various legit emergencies from IRL friends.
Even getting angry and not wanting to play is a good enough reason to stop playing.
It's funny as i bet feanux has taken none of those courses, and Nome, who was once in charge of the RAP (and later design) has a bachelors in psychology.
This system blows. Now the only time i'll report someone is if they have a bad name or they admit to griefing in chat (which is rare).
And you can't get people banned for feeding afk heroes. ROFL.
Hahaha
People complains about 15 coins without anything to get back is too much
Increases it to 25.
Goodjob S2, where's the Scumbag Steve hat with a S2 symbol when you need it?
that "cooldown timer" is among the 5 most retarded ideas i've ever heard, in any context.
just saying.
changed in rap 2.0 were fine, it just takes time to take effect. people will stop filling false reports once they got rejected 5 times and lost 75 coins.
raising the price and adding that totally stupid cooldown timer is not gonna change anything, really.
i'll think about reporting random people for random reasons, just stating how much i dislike that changes.
yes, that's worth some coins > :|
15 or 25 silver really isn't much at all.
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I'm not sure you thought that statement through.
Example: Day off of work and nothing to do! Lets play a game of HoN. 22 minutes in my employer calls and says they need me to come in ASAP and fix a situation. The correct choice is to go AFK/Close HoN and respond to your employer.
I've personally seen that happen a few times along with various legit emergencies from IRL friends.
Even getting angry and not wanting to play is a good enough reason to stop playing.
thats beyond homosexual
im going to afk every single game now.
and not get reported LOL!OL!OL!LOL
im srs
Sorry but the cool down timer is a retarded idea, you already require us t tell you when in a match the griefing occured, do i need a notepad now to record this info down so i will remember it after my next game.
i also think the coldown time is a bad idea, because it force the people to wait and do nothing will waiting, and most people will just join a new game or do something else, atleast for me RAP system is dead probably...
BTW if the match is lost at min 15, but some guy want to keep playing , is that consider griefing if he just want to play that match till the end? or is not bannable? i think there are to many variables as what is griefing and whats not , the system is not that great.
My dream heroes:
http://dream.heroesofnewerth.com/hero/Ashlan
really s2?
Hi S2 staff. Since the new patch i tried using the RAP for a player that i encountered on a sub-account. It says Invalid Account Id. Is this a problem because it was on the sub-account ? I cant report him on the main obviously because it wasnt in the games list. Please Help.
Thank you in advance.
Im pretty sure i wont spend 5 minutes in the chat "reflecting". Ill re-que or quit. If you really think this timer is needed set it to 30 sec.
Basically i doubt i will report anything anymore. I hope that wasnt the point. If this is a lack of resources kind of thing, then i think there are better ways. Also who cares about 25 silver?
Reality is an illusion caused by the lack of drugs
Having it 15 mins makes it just look like they want people to forget to report so they don't have to deal with anything at all. Whether that is the case or not, I do not know. I am not part of S2. I tried my darndest to become a GM to no avail. If I was I would be reviewing replays all day. I really don't have a life. I mean, now that I get frustrated with playing HoN so quickly because of all the people ruining games for me 'within the rules' because they're just horrible, or having smurfs on the other team, I can devote a whole day to looking over reports, but such is not the case. Actually, I should go check that thread and see if they're still taking applications, not that I'll get in or anything, because you have to show a number of games where you haven't done terribly, which doesn't happen for me anymore since F2P because of all the bads and smurfs.
Take this **** up with your shrink dude, not here.
Reality is an illusion caused by the lack of drugs
If you can't don't want to wait 5 minutes, or can't be bothered reporting a player after you have played another game, I highly doubt they ever did something bannable in the first place. Or it must have been something pretty minor that you don't care too much about.
Or maybe I for one just dont want to waste anymore time on some ******* who already annoyed me in a game?
Not wanting to sit and wait for revenge isnt the same as saying the reported is innocent. Surely you can understand that.
Reality is an illusion caused by the lack of drugs
Are u kidding me? With my sub account 'Sadakar' I can't report people ... the RAP system states:
You may not submit RAP tickets
ARE YOU FOR REAL S2?!?!?!? A F*CKING KID JUST RUINED MY GAME BIG TIME AND YOU DON'T LET ME REPORT HIM AFTER I WATCHED A GODDAM COUNTER COUNT DOWN FROM 05:00 TILL ZERO?! ... gg, i'm fcking done. This is just ridiculous. I demand an explanation.
Hi S2 staff. Since the new patch i tried using the RAP for a player that i encountered on a sub-account. It says Invalid Account Id. Is this a problem because it was on the sub-account ? I cant report him on the main obviously because it wasnt in the games list. Please Help.
Thank you in advance.
-Bumping.
5 min cooldown PER report? what if theres more than 1 offender in the same game and they are clearly breaking the rules?
What exactly "leaving" is under the other section?
I am not allowed to leave a game? O.o
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