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    Quote Originally Posted by NubbyMcNub View Post
    Easy if you're 1867. Not everyone's been playing for 3+ years.
    So your saying you belong in 1500 cuz ur skilled enough? problem solved

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by eskay View Post
    Yep. I can win my games as support in the 1750 bracket too. It's harder in the 1500 to support, trust.
    Eeeeexactly nobody saying "support every game to 1700 easy if ur good" will actually stand by it hard enough to climb up from **** tier that way

    Well, maybe if they cheat slightly by going mid with supports and pretend it still counts because they were warding.....no no, must include many games where you're specifically trying not to ruin a carry's farm, underleveled, any little screwup being a potential death, occasionally resulting in 10+ minutes before you've got even lil red booties

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Wise_One View Post
    So your saying you belong in 1500 cuz ur skilled enough? problem solved
    No, that's probably true but irrelevant.

    I just smelt BS and called someone on it who pussied out of the challenge. Then a 1867 who'd clearly been playind DotA for years chimed in and said it was easy. Well duh.
    Last edited by NubbyMcNub; 11-16-2011 at 09:02 AM.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Epidemilk View Post
    any little screwup being a potential death, occasionally resulting in 10+ minutes before you've got even lil red booties
    Don't go blood chalice first on support with no hp. Problem solved.
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    Stop bumping thread lol.

  6. #86
    Just pick a roaming ganker and go mid - or rice your life away - its impossible to not climb out of that low tier if you belong higher up... not hard bro

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by eskay View Post
    1500 is hell.

    Like, i'm far from a fantastic player, but when your revenant teammate buys a punch dagger and a mana pot at the start of the game, you know it's going to bed bad.

    When you're a behemoth and you go 11-8-29, and babysit the nomad to 28-8, you'd generally expect to win the game, especially when they have no carry. But when the rest of your team are 10 levels behind, and just finished their boots, what can you do?

    Lost 7 games in a row last night, 5 out of my control. From 1600 to 1508. Fml.
    this x100000000000

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    Pick amun ra, stomp your way to 1700s easy. 55% win rate, you cant argue with stats, laws of averages should get you to at least 1600s unless you are complete rubbish

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskay View Post
    1500 is hell.

    Like, i'm far from a fantastic player, but when your revenant teammate buys a punch dagger and a mana pot at the start of the game, you know it's going to bed bad.

    When you're a behemoth and you go 11-8-29, and babysit the nomad to 28-8, you'd generally expect to win the game, especially when they have no carry. But when the rest of your team are 10 levels behind, and just finished their boots, what can you do?

    Lost 7 games in a row last night, 5 out of my control. From 1600 to 1508. Fml.
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    I see a lot of these posts so I kinda was curious how bad it really is now with F2P. So I made a F2P account and played about 12 games. I won 9 without even playing a carry. (Just picked TB or pyro and tried to KS as much as possible)

    The players at that level are really terrible, but the biggest problems isn't the bad players imo it's the leavers. 2 of the games I lost where because 2-3 of my team makes left in the first 10-15 min. It doesn't really matter how good you are kinda hard to carry 2v5 with TB when your ally is kinda dumb (ok really dumb). I am pretty sure every game I have played on my F2P account has had at least 1-2 leavers. It's pretty bad.

    I don't see how it could be any harder to climb out at lower levels if the players just get worse.
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  11. #91
    Its pretty much impossible to lose 1650-. I dont get how you guys do it. im trying on my alt to lose and its just not possible.

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    solo mid got me from under 1300 to this rating

  13. #93
    I was in the 1200 bracket 2 weeks ago, and I am now 1700. I went solo mid as Aluna every game. You can either learn to carry 4 people, or stop being a jerk to teammates and make some friends. Two good ways to get out of low brackets.

    aka lonelyking

  14. #94
    So yeah, i carried as :fors:, but guess what? When your team are spastics, doesn't matter how well you do.

    I finished the game 9-0, and the on our team had only died once or twice. So that left and to feed over 27 kills to the enemy, mainly their nomad.

    So in this instance, where i'm farming a respectable 350gpm, helping out in team fights that need me, and still doing as much farming as i can, what can i do?

  15. #95
    The nice thing about probability is that it eventually evens out in your favor. There's a chance a player who isn't you is bad. You have 4 players on your team. They have 5 players on their team. Probability states that as long as you're guaranteed good (which if you're 200 MMR under where you should be, you are), with enough trials, the odds of their team having bad players is higher than the odds of your team having bad players.

    In short, for every x games you lose cause your team fed, you'll win x+1 games because the other team fed.

    Just keep playing, you'll get back to your proper MMR. If you don't, then you frankly aren't as good as you think you are.

    Either that or you whine and ***** so much at your team that you ruin your team's morale. Morale is honestly one of the most important things in this game. Once you start playing with the goal of 'feeding as little as possible' instead of 'winning', chances are you're going to lose. And shouting at people and calling them bad often brings the worst out of them. This is true in all games. Putting your team on tilt is a great way to lose games.


    Quote Originally Posted by eskay View Post
    So in this instance, where i'm farming a respectable 350gpm, helping out in team fights that need me, and still doing as much farming as i can, what can i do?
    You queue up again, and more often than not and will be on the other team.
    Last edited by PicardsFlute; 11-17-2011 at 12:33 AM.
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    Thumbs up

    Wooow,to all you nerd herds that brag about u solo this and solo that,,tell me..do you nerd herds get a disscount on any paypal porn site? Or do you guys get to see more tits on chatroulette cause you brag about that you solo up to 1700-1800-1900??

    Fcking nerds,i spit on ur paypal accounts..

    Why cant you be like that one person who mention something about bkid guide and help someone that asks for help.. No,you fcking nerd herds had to brag about solo this and solo that,,do you also brag about you solo punching ur epenis??? No?? Thought so!!

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    Some friends finally came on and as long as I had 1 person who bought wards or supported me we won. Now I am 1600 MMR hell where even if you make a reasonable request like ask a devo to buy a ward every now and then they wont. But won last 5 in a row so getting back up there. I am surprised this thread keeps getting bumped. I will let you know when I get back to 1700 MMR hell. Though that is where i think I belong since I know at this time I am not 1900 good at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by PicardsFlute View Post
    The nice thing about probability is that it eventually evens out in your favor. There's a chance a player who isn't you is bad. You have 4 players on your team. They have 5 players on their team. Probability states that as long as you're guaranteed good (which if you're 200 MMR under where you should be, you are), with enough trials, the odds of their team having bad players is higher than the odds of your team having bad players.

    In short, for every x games you lose cause your team fed, you'll win x+1 games because the other team fed.

    Just keep playing, you'll get back to your proper MMR. If you don't, then you frankly aren't as good as you think you are.

    Either that or you whine and ***** so much at your team that you ruin your team's morale. Morale is honestly one of the most important things in this game. Once you start playing with the goal of 'feeding as little as possible' instead of 'winning', chances are you're going to lose. And shouting at people and calling them bad often brings the worst out of them. This is true in all games. Putting your team on tilt is a great way to lose games.




    You queue up again, and more often than not and will be on the other team.

    That is true enough. Guess i've just had some bad luck in regards to the members of my team.

    And for the record, I really don't say anything negative in my games, not until they're so bad to the extent that they've ruined any chance of us winning.

    Back to the Queue i go.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Kahless View Post
    Some friends finally came on and as long as I had 1 person who bought wards or supported me we won. Now I am 1600 MMR hell where even if you make a reasonable request like ask a devo to buy a ward every now and then they wont. But won last 5 in a row so getting back up there. I am surprised this thread keeps getting bumped. I will let you know when I get back to 1700 MMR hell. Though that is where i think I belong since I know at this time I am not 1900 good at all
    It's just as likely the enemy won't have a ward***** aswell. The best way to solve it is to buy the wards yourself. If you're mid you generally only need 1 ward, wich is cheaper then a single creepwave. as SS/hag/tort you can snatch the easy camp as legion inbetween camps if you really dont have it.

    I know you're not suppose to do it, but getting it yourself beats not having them

  20. #100
    There are so many ignorant know-it-alls playing these days. I was 1665+ for the past year on my account and never once when I dropped under 1600 did I not come back up again to 1665+. Hell I even made it into 1700's plenty of times. The games were fine, never really had retarded team mates to force a lose. Then HoN Compressed everyones MMR rating one day and it sent me into 1550- and ever since then I have not been able to climb out.

    The ignorant/high and mighty ones among you like to simply say if you are **** you will stay in that bracket and if you aren't you will automatically prevail. This is bullsh1t. You CAN get out of 1500 bracket yes. The odds are very very against you though. Every single game I play half my team if not all of them are horrible feeders. How can ANYONE carry a game after your team feeds like this? You can't. And don't come replying saying you can because you are full of sh1t. I was mad a few days ago but now I just play and accept it for what it is. I might get lucky and get good team mates for 10-20 games and get out of this bracket. Very doubtful though. Even when I do get some good farm and ganks in my team still manages to feed the other team and not fight as a team. No one can 1v5, that is bullshit. It happens obviously, but not often.

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