Hypothetical and Ridiculous HON Math, Your Questions Answered! - For Entertainment Only

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

which heroes can do the most damage (mixed, magic and physical) with using all skills (no refresher, frostfieldplate or codex, all other items are allowed) assuming the enemy has 3000hp, 5.5 magic armor and 10 armor (hp dont have to be fixed, i just thought about heroes dealing %-dmg but they aint deal max damage i think, since im talking about hon-realstic values -> no 9999999hp).
i would assume deflier and ss are dealing tons of dmg with their ultis but are there other compination that deal more dmg?

edit: ofc we have to think about % heroes since tempest %-based skill really hurts :O

What about heroes like Devourer? We need a timeframe, else DoT skills like Devo's are not able to be counted (infinite damage, dependant on Devo's items)

[RainOfChaos]

then lets say max dmg in 10sec
well i see its somehow a stupid question :s

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

then lets say max dmg in 10sec
well i see its somehow a stupid question :s

Ok, how about the skills that use attack damage (Dark Lady's Silence then charge under the correct scenarios (surrounded by creeps closely packed) can hit stupid numbers with criticals and runed axes), are they countable? Things like an indirect Whip from Gladiator?

[[S2]MacroHard]

Spellshards Hellflower Soulstealer at point blank range. 2880 damage instantly after reductions with only his ultimate. Problem?

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

Spellshards Hellflower Soulstealer at point blank range. 2880 damage instantly after reductions with only his ultimate. Problem?

I believe Gladiator can go higher on his whip, and since the prerequisites for this was "using all spells, most damage in under 10 seconds" I think it would be fair to include his demon hands in that number.
Depends if the question allows spells based on auto attack damage and therefore having a dark lady might be the way to go.

[[E]IB_Void]

Macrohard, i have a question for you to answer; what is the higest armor possible achivable in the game? (with buffs from plague and the likes ofc) i got it to 193, and 91-93 something % damage reduction, can you beat that?

[[S2]MacroHard]

Level 25 Maliken (11.42 armor)
With Ultimate activated (+60)
With 6x Frostfield Plates (+90)
With allied Abyssal Skull (+5)
With allied Daemonic Breastplate (+5)
With allied Sac Stone (+3)
With KotF's Nature's Veil (+12)
With Hammerstorm Galvanize (+10)
With Plague Rider's Cursed Shield (+8)
With Rhapsody's Protective Melody (+1000)
With Ice Ogre's Ice Shield (+8)

= 1212.42 armor (98.64% reduction)

Of course this is only sustained for 2 seconds. ^^

[[E]IB_Void]

ahhh...****, forgot raphsody's thing, as well as the new sac stone
BUT
I WIN

Level 25 Maliken (11.42 armor)
With Ultimate activated (+60)
With 6x Frostfield Plates (+90)
With allied Abyssal Skull (+5)
With allied Daemonic Breastplate (+5)
With allied Sac Stone (+3)
With KotF's Nature's Veil (+12)
With Hammerstorm Galvanize (+10)
With Plague Rider's Cursed Shield (+8)
With Rhapsody's Protective Melody (+1000)
With Ice Ogre's Ice Shield (+8)
Demented shaman's cloud (+24)
Predasaur aura (+3)

= 1239.42 armor


IB_Void math too stronk

[[S2]MacroHard]

You cant dominate a Predasaur, DSham's ult goes to 30 with SOTM, and you have 5 allied heroes.

Level 25 Maliken (11.42 armor)
With Ultimate activated (+60)
With 6x Frostfield Plates (+90)
With allied Abyssal Skull (+5)
With allied Daemonic Breastplate (+5)
With allied Sac Stone (+3)
With Rhapsody's Protective Melody (+1000)
With Demented Shaman's Storm Cloud (+30)
With KotF's Nature's Veil (+12)
With Hammerstorm Galvanize (+10)
With Ice Ogre's Ice Shield (+8)

= 1234.42 armor (98.67% reduction)

[[E]IB_Void]

should be possible to steal it with a parasite ulti for one frame, right? or doesn't it work that way? just got a bit curious, since it's there.

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

Macro... am I missing something on your armour calculations?

name="State_Jereziah_Ability4"
icon="icon.tga"
armor="1000"
healthregen="25"
effecttype="StatusBuff"
allowtransfer="true"
passiveeffect="effects/state.effect" >

Surely 1000 armour from Jeraziah would be preferred over hammerstorm's 10, or does it not stack with something?

[[S2]MacroHard]

Macro... am I missing something on your armour calculations?

Surely 1000 armour from Jeraziah would be preferred over hammerstorm's 10, or does it not stack with something?

You're using outdated scripts. As of 2.6.4 Jeraziah ult gives physical immunity rather than simply 1000 armor.

<state
	name="State_Jereziah_Ability4"
	
	icon="icon.tga"
	healthregen="25"
	effecttype="StatusBuff"
	allowtransfer="true"
	passiveeffect="effects/state.effect"
	
>
	<ondamaged>
		<damageeffecttype effecttype="Physical">
			<scaledamage scale="0.0" />
		</damageeffecttype>
	</ondamaged>
	

</state>

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

You're using outdated scripts. As of 2.6.4 Jeraziah ult gives physical immunity rather than simply 1000 armor.

<state
    name="State_Jereziah_Ability4"
    
    icon="icon.tga"
    healthregen="25"
    effecttype="StatusBuff"
    allowtransfer="true"
    passiveeffect="effects/state.effect"
    
>
    <ondamaged>
        <damageeffecttype effecttype="Physical">
            <scaledamage scale="0.0" />
        </damageeffecttype>
    </ondamaged>
    

</state>

Why the change? I'm assuming this is a mechanics question since it's a similar effect; seems that it is a better solution though.

[man_guy]

For clarity? Any spells with magic damage immunity don't give +1000MA.

[[S2]MacroHard]

For clarity? Any spells with magic damage immunity don't give +1000MA.

Rhapsody Ult gives +1000 magic armor. Everything else is just magic immunity.

[Connect]

I've got one. How many Lvl 1 Slither wards does it take to kill Konger, if you assume Slither has unlimited mana, and places a ward every single time his wards are ready. And of course someone with infinate health is tanking Konger?

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

You cant dominate a Predasaur, DSham's ult goes to 30 with SOTM, and you have 5 allied heroes.

Level 25 Maliken (11.42 armor)
With Ultimate activated (+60)
With 6x Frostfield Plates (+90)
With allied Abyssal Skull (+5)
With allied Daemonic Breastplate (+5)
With allied Sac Stone (+3)
With Rhapsody's Protective Melody (+1000)
With Demented Shaman's Storm Cloud (+30)
With KotF's Nature's Veil (+12)
With Hammerstorm Galvanize (+10)
With Ice Ogre's Ice Shield (+8)

= 1234.42 armor (98.67% reduction)

Hi Again,

As per recent change this is now 1 armour out:
Hammerstorm - Galvanize: Armor bonus rescaled from 3/5/7/10 to 3/5/7/9

:/

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

I've got one. How many Lvl 1 Slither wards does it take to kill Konger, if you assume Slither has unlimited mana, and places a ward every single time his wards are ready. And of course someone with infinate health is tanking Konger?

For the record :
Toxin Wards: Wards damage rescaled from 9-11/17-21/26-32/34-42 to a static 10/19/28/37
This will be easier to calculate as a result. I am assuming you mean "How long will it take" instead of "how many wards"? It would make more sense to have that as a question, unless you want to count how many wards you'd have to place.

[[JHN]Emukle]

I don't know if this has been asked before, but would it be possible for a Devourer to stay forever with Decay activated? The same goes for Torturer's ult and Scout's Vanish.

[[AOWL]SmurfinBird]

I don't know if this has been asked before, but would it be possible for a Devourer to stay forever with Decay activated? The same goes for Torturer's ult and Scout's Vanish.

Yes, to all of them.