Hypothetical and Ridiculous HON Math, Your Questions Answered! - For Entertainment Only

[[S2]MacroHard]

What's the chance of Chronos rewinding damage 10 times in a row?

0.25^10 = .00000954.

So the answer is one-in-a-million (actually 1 in 1048576)

[[RCT]Assassine]

So, what would be the damage factor for a cursed ground on an enemy that got hit by blacksmiths hammer, myrms waveform, hellbringers life void, revenants mortification, has a void talisman activated and got hellflowered?

Also, i think theres something wrong with your puppet ult calculation, or at least i dont get how you get to a damage total of 5029 from the sum of 1800 and 3698

[BigBoss00]

What is the minimal attack speed required to achieve maximum efficency with Gladiators flaglation? Gladiator cannot stop attacking and must be at least level seven for the shortest cooldown ()4 sexonds. You are trying for an attack speed that syncs best with gladiators cooldown, trying to use flaglation as soon as possible when off cooldown.

[KARTlK]

What is the minimal attack speed required to achieve maximum efficency with Gladiators flaglation? Gladiator cannot stop attacking and must be at least level seven for the shortest cooldown ()4 sexonds. You are trying for an attack speed that syncs best with gladiators cooldown, trying to use flaglation as soon as possible when off cooldown.

make sure you remember frames mr. macrohard when answering this question.

so for my question.

I have a full bottle and a behemoths heart on a hero.

whens it better to drop the behe heart and use the bottle and when is it better to just keep the heart in your inventory for the regen it gives, assuming you want to get the most health possible after 9 seconds.

thanks brah. (when being strength or regen or whatever actually affects this I didn't really think much about it.)

[[S2]MacroHard]

ya, im aware of frames. thanks for the heads up.

so to paraphrase...
When does the regen from behemoth's heart equal that of using 3 charges of bottle back to back to back (no overlap)? I'll factor in regen from base and strengh stats as well, but no other pure regen items.

[[J4K]DJDavyDave]

I have 2 questions, I think they are somewhat simple.

1. I thought i could find this somewhere else, but what is the ABSOLUTE armor cap/ %reduction achievable, including any auras you could get from teamates. (87.5%)?

2. If some poor chap got trapped in the middle of an endless pile of enemy creeps, and some trolo came along and healed said creeps, what is the damage cap for Dshams HealNuke?

[[cmba]jaypea]

What is the maximum amount of auto attacks Swift Blade can get during his Ult?

[Sokator]

^ You mean during spin?

[[eR]Ekamo]

^ You mean during spin?

I am pretty sure he knows what he means.

[[FDJ]J3rk]

^ You mean during spin?

Swift can attack during his ult...
Not sure if troll though

[[HCTc]Athildur]

^ You mean during spin?

Swiftblade can auto attack during his ultimate, with the proper attack speed. It's a pretty interesting question

[[SBTs]Norroar]

How did you get to the number on your "Q: If you last hit and deny every creep, how much experience will you and you enemy have 1v1 after 10 minutes?"?

#Time	Wave	Melee	Ranged	Siege	Total	Total Melee	Total Ranged	Total Siege	Min. Gold	Avg. Gold	Max. Gold	Min. TGold	Avg. TGold	Max. TGold	Passive Gold
00:00	1	3	1	0	4	3	1	0	157	177	197	157	177	197	0
00:30	2	3	1	0	4	6	2	0	157	177	197	314	354	394	37.5
01:00	3	3	1	0	4	9	3	0	157	177	197	471	531	591	75
01:30	4	3	1	0	4	12	4	0	157	177	197	628	708	788	112.5
02:00	5	3	1	0	4	15	5	0	157	177	197	785	885	985	150
02:30	6	3	1	0	4	18	6	0	157	177	197	942	1062	1182	187.5
03:00	7	3	1	1	5	21	7	1	223	250	277	1165	1312	1459	225
03:30	8	3	1	0	4	24	8	1	157	177	197	1322	1489	1656	262.5
04:00	9	3	1	0	4	27	9	1	157	177	197	1479	1666	1853	300
04:30	10	3	1	0	4	30	10	1	157	177	197	1636	1843	2050	337.5
05:00	11	3	1	0	4	33	11	1	157	177	197	1793	2020	2247	375
05:30	12	3	1	0	4	36	12	1	157	177	197	1950	2197	2444	412.5
06:00	13	3	1	0	4	39	13	1	157	177	197	2107	2374	2641	450
06:30	14	3	1	1	5	42	14	2	223	250	277	2330	2624	2918	487.5
07:00	15	3	1	0	4	45	15	2	157	177	197	2487	2801	3115	525
07:30	16	3	1	0	4	48	16	2	157	177	197	2644	2978	3312	562.5
08:00	17	3	1	0	4	51	17	2	157	177	197	2801	3155	3509	600
08:30	18	3	1	0	4	54	18	2	157	177	197	2958	3332	3706	637.5
09:00	19	3	1	0	4	57	19	2	157	177	197	3115	3509	3903	675
09:30	20	3	1	0	4	60	20	2	157	177	197	3272	3686	4100	712.5
10:00	21	3	1	1	5	63	21	3	223	250	277	3495	3936	4377	750

I see a 3936 average gold difference, excluding the periodic gold income. What am I missing?

[[S2]MacroHard]

I used 42.5 average gold per creep per the honwiki (170 per wave without siege)

[Kirby_]

Wasnt EP damage increase recently changed from +20% to +15%? would effect your last calculation

[[SBTs]Norroar]

Yeah. I am looking at the HoN game files right now. This seems ... odd.

HoN:

Melee - 38 to 47 (42.5)
Ranged - 38 to 47 (42.5)
Siege - 56 to 80 (68)


DotA:

Melee - 38 to 48 (43)
Ranged - 43 to 53 (48)
Siege - 66 to 80 (72)



153 gold per wave, versus 177. This is actually an extremely huge difference. Hmn.
Nevermind. Gold is still quite off, but it totals a bit different. I did something weird ... and I don't remember why.

170 vs 177 on regular pre 999 min wave
238 vs 250 on regular siege wave (again, prior to extra unit spawn)

[Kirby_]

I have 2 questions, I think they are somewhat simple.

2. If some poor chap got trapped in the middle of an endless pile of enemy creeps, and some trolo came along and healed said creeps, what is the damage cap for Dshams HealNuke?

so 700 damage healing wave is maxed at, then minus armor since it is physical damage

[KARTlK]

ya, im aware of frames. thanks for the heads up.

so to paraphrase...
When does the regen from behemoth's heart equal that of using 3 charges of bottle back to back to back (no overlap)? I'll factor in regen from base and strengh stats as well, but no other pure regen items.

Maybe that's what Im asking but I can't really see it.

Behemoths heart gives like 990 hp. And everyone knows you toggle your steamboots to agi to get more hp out of your bottle charges since % based etc you know the deal.

So I'm wondering when you should drop the heart and get more %healed by bottle vs just keeping the heart in your inventory the whole 9 seconds and getting that regen+the bottle.

[[S2]MacroHard]

Maybe that's what Im asking but I can't really see it.

Behemoths heart gives like 990 hp. And everyone knows you toggle your steamboots to agi to get more hp out of your bottle charges since % based etc you know the deal.

So I'm wondering when you should drop the heart and get more %healed by bottle vs just keeping the heart in your inventory the whole 9 seconds and getting that regen+the bottle.

OOOOoooOoOooo.... that is a much more interesting question indeed! I'll get on that tomorrow.

(Sunday is my play day, M-F is my math time)

[[7up]DarkAgonizer]

How much DMG will Bloodhunter ult do if u run the whole distance
speeds 522 475 420 350

[[S2]MacroHard]

1. I thought i could find this somewhere else, but what is the ABSOLUTE armor cap/ %reduction achievable, including any auras you could get from teamates. (87.5%)?

Maximum = 100% reduction / 0% damage (at infinite armor)
Minimum = 100% amplification / 200% damage (at infinite negative armor)
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...d.php?t=337020

87.5% reduction occurs at 116.7 armor.

What is the maximum amount of auto attacks Swift Blade can get during his Ult?

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...ad.php?t=60727