Balance Dump

[[LsE]Hsssh]

The really funny thing IMO was how we've seen people (and even some high rated ones) arguing silhouette was UNDERPOWERED before her first nerf. I just wondered if they really believed that, or were they just trying to defend their newly-found pubstomp vehicle.
If the former, how could so many skilled players be this bad at evaluating the balance of a hero? it was unreal.

Comp players have good reaction times and very good mechanical skills, other than that majority of them are braindead, it's enough to look at few of their streams.

[PzKw]

Man. Valk.

I once wrote ten pages in one hit on what was wrong with PotM. There's a lot wrong with having a hero who does the things she does.

Sigh.

[KillMePlease]

Top 10# most derp heroes by KillMePlease
In the following order from least derpy to most derpy -

#10 - Legionaire

Ok, this guy is not your average, "press button blow up target hero", and I hate having to put him here as he was one of my favourite heroes, and probably still is, but let's face it, he's a derp hero. He is reasonably tanky but early game he will just tear through lane with that deadly AoE spin. Throughout mid-late game, he will just become tankier and tankier, and after he gets barbed armour he'll just be an AoE ball of death. But really, all your job is as Legion is to Terrifying Charge in, Taunt, Barbed Armour and then split someone in half with your ulti if you really feel like it.

#9 - Deadwood

Ok, well he isn't one of my favourites and there is some skill involved in placing his root but seriously? His Ult? Instant 1v1 win. Oh hey squishy hero, eat my 1k ulti, and now I shall proceed to clean up the mess with the tree I'm holding. In teamfights his sole purpose is to drop a root somewhere and then immediately eliminate an enemy hero from the fight by smacking them with his Ult. Ult derp.

#8 - Scout

Yes, he can be difficult to play, especially early game, but as long as you don't die, you're set. No, really, the best way of playing Scout? Watch a fight until some poor sod is on no health, walk up and put a knife in his back, or shoot him from a mile away, basking in his screams of terror as he notices the marksman target appear on his buff/debuff bar. Just gotta be good at kill stealing and you can be the team's late game hero!

#7 - Pyromancer

If you don't have hopeless aim, you can fry your enemies and guarantee yourself some cooked meat. His dragonfire can be a ***** to land, but his Phoenix Wave is hard to miss and his Ult is just like, "MY POWER LEVEL IS OVER 9000". It is. The only problem he has is that he gets stomped on by anyone who gets a jump on him, but a bit of Ult can quickly change their mind.

#6 - Corrupted Disciple -

Playing Corrupted Disciple consists of 2 things - FEEL THE BURN and getting good items. Early game his FEEL THE BURN absolutely destroys squishy heroes if you time it perfectly and late game, it's just a matter of Overload, FEEL THE BURN and jetpack whilst on foot through your foes hurling electric charges at them. Any if it doesn't go to plan, you can probably just run away anyway, I mean, he ain't slow.

#5 - Moon Queen -

More like Moon *****?!? HAHA! No, seriously, her Ult is like, "OH CRAP I MIGHT DIE FIRIN MA LASER". Unless you're CD or some other hero who can teleport/sprint/charge away, then you're screwed if she decides she can't handle the pressure and ults you. And even if you somehow manage to survive the ult, then she can just drop her nuke stun on you anyway. Good luck 1v1'ing timid Moon Queens.

#4 - Swiftblade -

Swiftderp comes to mind. Early game his spin is like, "You can't touch me but I can touch you". I mean, if you're a caster you really can't do much except run away when he decides to go into helicopter mode. And not only that, his ult is like Moon Queen's. "Can't handle the pressure!" *Hammers on the R button*. Although it laughable when roflcopter's ult gets transferred onto Creeps.

#3 - Blood Hunter -

This hero shits me. He ults you and you just have to stand there as the 5 man gank converges on you and tears you apart from all directions. And he is totally misleading, I mean, he is on low health and you think, "Hmm, well if I get close enough I can kill him with my nuke", and then one of your teammates Leeroy Jenkins it, dies and suddenly our blood hunting friend is back on full health. What a waste. And when he's near someone with half health he gets rockets? As if he ain't derp enough.

#2 - Emerald Warden -

Not quite the most derp, but very close. EW's hounds require you to do nothing but click the button and suddenly not only are you damaging enemies who aren't even in LoS, but it may even give EW a good idea where their enemies are. Then, his silence, which requires you to just pick a target and watch as they scream when their skillbar goes grey. Gawain does everything for him, healing him, damaging and slowing enemies, I mean, EW is like a General with an army, the General commands and the army does what he commands, and you don't even have to command Gawain, he just decides it's time to help and you get help.

And the most derp hero of them all - Rampage

Ok, anyone who plays Rampage regularly deserves to be shot at first sight. I mean, he is probably the easiest hero in the game. He can herpaderp charge across the entire map, can stun an enemy with his head smashing abilities and can then chain them and give them a joyride before eating them. He requires absolutely no thinking whatsoever. And to go with it, he is quite tanky so he doesn't get taken down easily either.

These 10 heroes need to be made less derp.

Also, special mention to Predator and Flint Beastwood who just missed out. Predator, because his Leap looks retarded, he eats you and his stone-hide is just plain annoying. And Flint because his Ulti is just retarded, but is nothing compared to MQ/SB.

Anyone who plays those 12 heroes regularly should try better, less derp heroes such as - Hellbringer, Moraxus, Andromeda, Balphagore, Engineer, Tunda and Ophelia. Yes, I just listed some of the worst heroes in the game, but hey, at least they aren't OP and if someone does go well at them, they deserve a medal.
People who play Rampage, go 4-2 and call the other team gay after they concede because Magebane got fed should be taken 30,000 feet above the Pacific Ocean and pushed out without a parachute.
Or for those who cannot be bothered to go to such extremes, they should have their skin flayed, their eyes and tongue cut out, their ears ripped off, their toes and fingers cut off one by one, their hair burnt off and their heart cut out.
Or you can just call them "gay" back.

rant end/

[[S2]Dawnbringer]

KillMePlease.

Mean that seriously. Kill me please. I don't know wtf I just read. Some of the things you listed are so easily countered it isn't even funny. Some by common sense more than anything else. e.g. Oh look, I see a flying pink dot charging across the minimap towards me, maybe I should b to my tower before Rampage hits me. Or: Gee, Deadwood is really raping me with his ult, maybe I should buy a little armor to 1/2 the damage I take from his ult, that might be a good idea, heck I might even splurge on a void talisman!

Seriously...

[[GDB]Vermillion_]

... China can you please delete that post it's giving me an aneurysm.

[[S2]Dawnbringer]

The saddest part is he even seems to have put effort into it. If only he had added some thought too...

[[GDB]Vermillion_]

I know right, but I suspect he's new to this game so can't expect too much.

[[LsE]Hsssh]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[[GDB]Vermillion_]

I dno, he's got less then like 42 games played with 38% win ratio. So it could be legit

[[S2]Dawnbringer]

Fairly sure he thinks that he is being serious :/

You have no idea how many people post threads denouncing EW/Rampage/BH/Deadwood as op. I mean, look at SirVH's posts in the old Rampage thread. "Rampage is OP because he can stun someone for 8 seconds". Because you know, he isn't easily countered at all or anything. You could just get tablet/Storm spirit/Void talisman/Stun him/Have a decent sense of map awareness etc etc etc or anything could you?...

[PzKw]

Those heroes are all derp. He just named (most) of the heroes who take the least ability to be effective. They're not overpowered, they're just the examples of the heroes who are easiest to dominate tards with.

I don't think he's trolling at all, he's just really bad.

[[TCND]Scrubs]

The heroes he mentioned are pretty weak. What we need to talk about is Valk and Wretched Hag.

Those heroes are way too damn good.

[Antimodus]

More like Moon *****?!? HAHA! No, seriously, her Ult is like, "OH CRAP I MIGHT DIE FIRIN MA LASER".

for some reason it made me burst out laughing as I was reading this. +1 internets to u good sir

[[S2]ElementUser]

Resurrected to contain all the QQ

[Anakha]

thanks.

[Ayevee]

I pored some cereal before checking to see if we had milk.

we didn't.

[Zilrax]

I hate when that happens. So I used orange juice. It was a bad idea.

And yay this is back. Where I get to make one useful post for every 5 things I type with orangutangs in my spanikopita.

[Shadeward]

The heroes he mentioned are pretty weak. What we need to talk about is Valk and Wretched Hag.

Those heroes are way too damn good.

Let's talk about Kraken, shall we?

Then maybe we can have a little chat about Midas.

[TRYTROUSERS]

Yeah I like that their "big fix" to the kraken problem was to take one armor away. hey guess what, you still lose if you're melee and he's on the other team. How is that good balance again? "Your melee, I have ult and charge, you lose even though you have shrunken, sorry"

[[GDB]Vermillion_]

Hey c'mon that was a drastic change and it wasn't negated by the hp regen buff they gave melee's or anything like that.