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Thread: [2.2.0] Plague Rider

View Poll Results: Is Plague Rider balanced?

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    43 31.39%
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    86 62.77%
  • UP (Underpowered)

    8 5.84%
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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Amdyn View Post
    Som of my other posts deal with PR as a 1v1 solo - he has at best a 30s advantage in getting to level 6. To counter that he has a poor attack animation, 550 range, no escape and barely any rune control abilities.
    The other scenario where PR is used is as a solo when the team has a jungler - this is in fact where I believe his major advantages lie - giving his carry or jungling mate a solid base. Many posts previous to mine have referred to PR as a solo against 2 - go jump on them too.
    Please go watch a few actual games with a decent PR in them and go and comment. No, not pub games. This is tragic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakha View Post
    I see Lich sitting a hard carry mid more than anything, because it forces the other team to send 2 people mid or risk losing rune control, exp advantage of a solo AND letting said carry freefarm.

    Which isn't to say that Lich isn't good as a 1v1 solo, but is considered a waste because of the average length of games, and how games are decided in DotA. Not to mention an overfed and overlevelled Lich has several hardcounters in that game, most notably Doom.
    Yeah I must admit I have not watched that many DotA games, only a few, and when I saw Lich he was actually soloing 1v1. I am not surprised to learn that he is used more as a mid 2v2 mid, which he is on occation even in HoN or in the pubs that I play.
    Stats are like women in bikinis, they are interesting to look at however they don't show you everything.

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    This hero is still way too safe a pick. I don't get why people think he ult is fine because you can spread out. With any kind of creep support it's highly unlikely you will completely avoid the ultimate, and a hero who is running away from the ultimate is not providing DPS or CC for at least 3 seconds in a team battle. It's just too powerful an ability for a hero who has complete lane dominance in 95% of situations and no need to actually farm items- compare it to glacius ult for example and how much easier it is to counter that.

    I remember in dota how bounce type skills stopped when a player ran into fog. Why is it not like that in this game?

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by GregerMoek View Post
    Yeah I must admit I have not watched that many DotA games, only a few, and when I saw Lich he was actually soloing 1v1. I am not surprised to learn that he is used more as a mid 2v2 mid, which he is on occation even in HoN or in the pubs that I play.
    *shrug* It varies on where they want to take the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRYTROUSERS View Post
    This hero is still way too safe a pick. I don't get why people think he ult is fine because you can spread out. With any kind of creep support it's highly unlikely you will completely avoid the ultimate, and a hero who is running away from the ultimate is not providing DPS or CC for at least 3 seconds in a team battle. It's just too powerful an ability for a hero who has complete lane dominance in 95% of situations and no need to actually farm items- compare it to glacius ult for example and how much easier it is to counter that.

    I remember in dota how bounce type skills stopped when a player ran into fog. Why is it not like that in this game?
    Are not most supports pretty safe picks? Sure some of them are more niche than others however I'd still say that even if you were denied a -armor setup for some reason Andromeda would still not be bad.
    Maybe I ignored your point, but I would say that while Plague Rider's lane dominance is pretty decent, it's not an instawin. While a Plague Rider lane can be offensive because of his short cd nuke, I'd say that someone having Glacius' stuff as support when going in for a kill will have an easier time in certain situations.
    Stats are like women in bikinis, they are interesting to look at however they don't show you everything.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Anakha View Post
    Please go watch a few actual games with a decent PR in them and go and comment. No, not pub games. This is tragic.
    How about you tell me which ones to watch ?
    Otherwise show me how my math posted earlier is faulty.

    What is tragic is when logic and reasoning are replaced with personal opinion.

  7. #127
    That's not logic and reasoning. That's you extrapolating your experiences in pub into poor analysis of an issue.

    Really, go and watch some comp games with Plague Rider in them. Preferably more than one.
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    Truth is, I thought it mattered
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    But does it? Bollocks!
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    Thread closed noops.

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