So much Mac hate... lets actually take a look.

[[SBT]Leyst]

I still don't see how people see white as a design, but yes, even I, the mighty Leyst have been tempted to buy a Macbook, after trying my older brothers iMac I must admit I quite liked it, but it just didn't have the same feel as my Windows 7.

But to be fair, I am already an applewhore, I use my iPhone, iPad and iPod daily

[Kelebek]

OP doesn't understand that Macs are coded from the base up for very specific sets of hardware. Hey OP, why aren't emulators super amazingly fast on PC when all the hardware is much better than the consoles? DURR DURR DURR HURR.

Hey OP, how about buying a new graphics card for your Mac so you can play newer games? Owait, you can do neither of those things.

[[SBT]Leyst]

Kelebek confirmed for ignorant

[[PonE]Dixynormus]

I have Asus Fast boot, boots up in no time and if my pc is off and I need to use the internet I just use the express gate and that loads up instantly to search a web page then be gone! or I could skype without actually having to boot up windows!. And I know I spent less for my beast of a Machine then I would have with a Mac... not saying I have a problem with Mac's I just don't believe in spending that much.
Problem?

[Sauron`]

but what makes visual studio a 'better' enviroment? I'm curious to know

Trust me....most professional Programmers use Visual Studio. it's just the best IDE to use. (Well for C/C#/C++ Anyways). Without going into details VS is just a really great IDE and although people will not want to use it because it's M$ they did a really good job with it.

Also.....seriously another Mac vs PC Argument....sigh.
I have a better argument, how about anyone that loves Macs give me a reason why I should buy a Mac over Windows knowing:
1. A Custom Built PC is cheaper and easier to maintain (and probably more reliable)
2. Windows has never given me a single issue

If you can answer me that...then by all means go ahead. Also "to fit in" or "be trendy" is not an acceptable answer.

[MichaelBurge]

2. Windows has never given me a single issue

I already explained why that's not going to be a productive point to argue. A hunt-and-peck typist "never has a single issue" with his keyboard, yet there are still benefits to learning to touch-type Dvorak.

Similarly, you might "never have a single issue" manually clicking through the HoN shop to buy your items, yet these crazy people on the forums claim that learning the hotkeys really helps.

it's just the best IDE to use.

It's the best IDE to use, but not necessarily the best way to develop software. I used to swear by Visual Studio, but prefer a Linux toolchain nowadays.

But again, I don't judge you for using a different evironment - the point is that the thousand dollars for a Macintosh is nothing in the grand scheme of things, and if it helps a professional get his job done better it's a worthwhile investment. Not everyone likes a Windows + Visual Studio toolchain, and it's the *only* real choice on Windows(except for maybe C or C++) - if you want anything else, you might as well throw the entire OS out.

[Sauron`]

I already explained why that's not going to be a productive point to argue. A hunt-and-peck typist "never has a single issue" with his keyboard, yet there are still benefits to learning to touch-type Dvorak.

Similarly, you might "never have a single issue" manually clicking through the HoN shop to buy your items, yet these crazy people on the forums claim that learning the hotkeys really helps.



It's the best IDE to use, but not necessarily the best way to develop software. I used to swear by Visual Studio, but prefer a Linux toolchain nowadays.

But again, I don't judge you for using a different evironment - the point is that the thousand dollars for a Macintosh is nothing in the grand scheme of things, and if it helps a professional get his job done better it's a worthwhile investment. Not everyone likes a Windows + Visual Studio toolchain, and it's the *only* real choice on Windows(except for maybe C or C++) - if you want anything else, you might as well throw the entire OS out.

The beginning part wasn't me trying to argue, in fact I was trying to take the other route: For someone to give ME a reason I should get a Mac, which was my point entirely.

[Lethe]

First day of 4th year today.

Every professor was using a MBP. If that wasn't enough, a lot more students (% wise compared to previous years) were using a MBP.

So I have to agree again with Apostate that they are kind of a 'status' symbol, although with that being said they are something that technically inclined people are less likely to look upon favorably.

[Apostate]

The beginning part wasn't me trying to argue, in fact I was trying to take the other route: For someone to give ME a reason I should get a Mac, which was my point entirely.

It sounds like Windows caters to your needs more than Mac does. This isn't about "which should i get?", it's about "which is better?". Which should I get is a very easy question, whereas which is better is a much more complicated answer. We are discussing advantages that Macs DO have.

[[snsd]TaeYeon]

Kelebek your first two sentences is basically saying you accepted the argument of Macs being faster with the same hardware ... only in a negative way! Please think twice before you act. Of course it's an advantage that the OS is built for a specific set of hardware, but that's still an advantage, no matter how you twist it to make it look silly. Handling both the hardware and the software is one of Apple's big selling points, and only positive depending on how you look at it of course.

Also @Hax

Good think us humans have different opinions, huh?

[LegoPirate]

and this thread just went from civil to trashcan in one post

[Sauron`]

It sounds like Windows caters to your needs more than Mac does. This isn't about "which should i get?", it's about "which is better?". Which should I get is a very easy question, whereas which is better is a much more complicated answer. We are discussing advantages that Macs DO have.

Well if we are talking about advantages:
-They look better (Generally)
-Pretty Stable
-Easy to Use

Everything else is purely opinion

Im not denying those....but is it worth the cost?...to most people I don't think so, but to some I suppose it is.

I think that's the simplest explanation there can be.

[[snsd]TaeYeon]

and this thread just went from civil to trashcan in one post

Isn't that pretty rude to say? Your post certainly doesn't add to a "civil" discussion at all.

Edit: Not that this thread was anything at all but trash when the OP is a troll and all those silly images posted.

[Apostate]

Well if we are talking about advantages:
-They look better (Generally)
-Pretty Stable
-Easy to Use

Everything else is purely opinion

Im not denying those....but is it worth the cost?...to most people I don't think so, but to some I suppose it is.

I think that's the simplest explanation there can be.

I think that's an honest assessment. /thread

[[TTGL]Coolcollo]

and this thread just went from civil to trashcan in one post

My thoughts exactly friend.

[[NLD]XxmagiksxX]

LOL another one?

[Pipin]

Leave it to a gaming forum to troll me and call me a troll for presenting valid information in a pleasant manner.

Who are the real trolls?

You are a troll for intentionally skewing and ignoring some information. You can fully customize your windows desktop. You can go as far that people wont even recognize it as a windows desktop. The only things i need for it is rainmeter and rocketdock and bam amazing dekstop.

Pcs unrealiable? Not really, its like saying a highly complicated maschine is unreliable because not everyone can use it. PCs are very reliable for everyone who knows how to properly use them. With my own PC that boots up under 25 seconds i have not had any problems. Also why would you want to ignore linux? Lets say we ignore OS X then, oh snap apple pcs cant run then.


But yea the only things i can agree on is apple computers are better for people new to PC technology as its harder to break stuff on them.
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Thats it, looks are purely opinion

Also pcs dont eat nearly as much power as you might think if they are running 24/7 and are going into sleep mode.

Good quality hardware? And there i tought apple uses the same hardware as people do in their pcs... only that they charge more... oh wait they do.

The better keyboards etc is again a matter of taste. I do agree some of their keyboards are of better quality but the price you have to pay for it is not acceptable for me. Apple pcs are still just non customizable pcs.

[Hax]

Kelebek your first two sentences is basically saying you accepted the argument of Macs being faster with the same hardware ... only in a negative way! Please think twice before you act. Of course it's an advantage that the OS is built for a specific set of hardware, but that's still an advantage, no matter how you twist it to make it look silly. Handling both the hardware and the software is one of Apple's big selling points, and only positive depending on how you look at it of course.

Also @Hax

Good think us humans have different opinions, huh?

I guess that leads us back to this?