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So there has been a recent influx if Mac haters on this forum so I just want to discuss a few minor points of Mac vs Windows PC's.
1. Reliable sleep mode
The killer feature of every Mac which can't be underestimated (and you don't realise how important it is until you own a Mac) is OS X's 100% reliable, near-instant suspend and resume.
Windows PCs have just never had this. Reliability on Windows is hit and miss, and it's nowhere near instant. As a result most people are in the habit of shutting down their PC totally -- or worse, leaving them on 24/7, chewing up power.
The difference between Mac and Windows in this respect is the difference between broadband and dialup internet. Back in the 90s, many people couldn't see the point of paying extra for an always-on internet service, as "it only takes a minute to connect using the dialup…"
I always shake my head in bemusement when I read about Microsoft working on dramatically shortening boot time on Windows. Boot time shouldn't be such a pivotal issue if suspend and resume worked well. Mac users probably reboot their Mac on average about once a month -- and often only to install an OS update. Which leads to my second point.
2. Extremely fast boot times
Rebooting a Windows PC can be such a painful experience that you really procrastinate doing it. Unless you're running on the highest spec hardware, Vista can take minutes to start up.
Mac OS X starts up from a cold boot in about 25 seconds on a current-gen MacBook Pro. As another journalist contributing to the discussion observed, this is not a faked boot speed, where the operating system maker has rushed to get the login window on screen, but delayed loading the rest of the OS. It's a genuine boot-to-usable-desktop time.
3. Apple uses good quality parts.
Aside from the operating system, Mac hardware is usually good quality. Apple's fit and finish doesn't generally bend and creak like the plastic panels on many PC laptops; Apple's keyboards are high quality; Apple selects good quality parts like very good LCD panels for its screens.
You can essentially buy a Mac product sight-unseen and know you'll be happy with the quality of the display, whereas PC laptops are a huge grab bag ranging from horrendous, dim rubbish to spectacular. (I have to admit I personally don't think the basic MacBook screen is of a quality that I would want to buy, but then, I think it's still better than a lot of PC notebook screens.)
4. OS X + Windows is better than just Windows
Ignoring Linux, on a Mac I can legitimately run OS X and Windows (natively, or under virtualisation). On a PC I can only legitimately run Windows.
It means I can use OS X for everything, but if there's the occasional application for Windows I need to use (specialised company application; MS Access; mobile phone firmware upgrader utilities) I can easily do use Windows.
Another of my colleagues said she's found a good use for OS X's Spaces virtual desktop feature -- OS X on one desktop and Windows on another desktop. Of course, you can always pause a virtual machine, too, which means having Windows on-call when you need it doesn't need to be chewing up CPU time in the background.
5. Easier to troubleshoot Macs.
It's usually pretty easy to figure out what's going wrong with a Mac. There are three applications that help you and are all in one place and easy to find in the Applications/Utilities folder:
Last but not least... a true Command Line Interface (CLI). Sure windows has a "Command Prompt" but what control does it honestly give over your computer if Windows "Command Prompt" has to be run in its own simulated environment?
Last edited by leetsys; 09-09-2011 at 10:48 PM.
Go play Photoshop lol
Subtlety is the art of saying what you want and getting out of the way before it is understood.
Mac is the best. Ferrari of comps.
Clearly you are a troll. This troll post belongs in off topic or the garbage.
Leave it to a gaming forum to troll me and call me a troll for presenting valid information in a pleasant manner.
Who are the real trolls?
I like windows more, and I dont want to spend more money on something I like less
problem officer?
You know this has nothing to do with HoN. You also know all this is going to do is turn into a shitstorm so yes, you clearly intended this as a troll post.Originally Posted by leetsys
Caught red handed. sad
rofl
I spent half as much on my PC, installed Windows for gaming, use Ubuntu for work, and I'm twice as fast as my friend's iMac which was like $ 2000. Problem?
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I like how these hipsters are trying to prove Macs are better. News flash *******s, a Mac is a PC. Because you bought retail china PCs in the past is why you fail, now you are fail headed and have to pay lots for something thats ok but still qualifies you as fail. Buy a PC with top name brand parts and not only will you have saved a ton but you'll be spoiled with a sexy beast. Then again...you're just an incompetent dud head who can't handle the feat of building your own PC Sad panda face for you-especially since its so easy. My grandma can do it.
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And yes I own a PC, and a zx10 lol
How can so many people ignore a standard CLI and say Windows is still better than a Mac or any *nix based OS? Do people honestly not want true control over their OS?
Sounds like you've been brainwashed by a Mac associate, it's ok--they only hire the most charming gentlemen so a homo like yourself stands absolutely no chance.
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I can bet my Butt, that all of these ppl hating have PCs and can't afford Macs.
The only reason you want control on a PC is to make it Better.... Us Mac users don't need control because who in their right mind would change perfection?
Yeah, I can afford a zx10 simply as a weekend toy, but I cant afford a Mac.
That's some Mac logic for ya.
inb4 moved to offtopic
Also THIS
...and quickly...
Point #1
- There has been no recent influx. Mac hate has been around as long as Mac. (most of the hate is directed at Mac users to be honest)
Service Pack 3 for XP, and Windows 7 sleeps and resumes fine.1. Reliable sleep mode
The only bottlenecks are:
- How much crap you're running.
- What kind of hard disk config you're running.
bemusement:I always shake my head in bemusement when I read about Microsoft working on dramatically shortening boot time on Windows. Boot time shouldn't be such a pivotal issue if suspend and resume worked well.
1. To cause to be bewildered; confuse. See Synonyms at daze.
2. To cause to be engrossed in thought
So you dive deep into throught, or cause bewildered (as opposed to become bewildered)? I think that the word you were searching for but couldn't quite find through your thick fog of Mac-Elitist-Fanboism is "amusement."
My computer loads Windows 7 Pro x64 from completely off to ready to use in 7 seconds. Rebooting is roughly double that (a little more than 14). SSD's (what the future of hard drives will be) make your argument totally moot.2. Extremely fast boot times
PC's can be built with any parts you want. (Markets exist for all qualities)3. Apple uses good quality parts.
- cheap parts are good for budget builds.
- expensive parts are good for performance builds.
So basically Apple isn't as flexible.
[/quote]4. OS X + Windows is better than just Windows
Ignoring Linux, on a Mac I can legitimately run OS X and Windows (natively, or under virtualisation). On a PC I can only legitimately run Windows.[/quote]
Can't be done you say?
(just one quick example. Google searches return many many more results.)
Those apps end up telling you "go get your computer fixed" or "unknown, go get your computer fixed." They're just as generic and uninformative as a windows error.5. Easier to troubleshoot Macs.
then is worse than I thought... YOUR ARE JUST IGNORANT
mac = 3000$ hipster college girls facebook machine
MFW windows fanboys don't realize that they're newest OS that's not a fail (cough cough VISTA cough cough) is trying to be more like OS X
MFW Windows suggests buying a new computer every 4 years, something most PC fanboys complain about for Macs not lasting.
MFW I have no face.
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