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    Fix NULL STONE

    I just played a game with flux and Null stone on EW was cancelling my ultimate. So stupid, i wasnt able to push or pull him. Null stone isnt supposed to cancel only targetable spells?!?!?!?

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    TB ult? Vindi ult?

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    Did it cancel your ultimate completely? Or was it only Warden that didn't move? Cause if it's the second then that's perfectly fine and probably intended. The same thing happens with TB's ult. Single target doesn't literally mean "a single target". It more means "any targeted spell". Flux's ult targets each enemy hero and applies an effect to them. Same with TB's ult.

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    Global ults (like Flux, TB, Vindi, and Sand Wraith) apply five single target spells, one to every enemy hero. Single target spells get blocked by nullstone. This is also why they apply the Frostwolf Skull debuff to everyone. /thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandoom View Post
    Global ults (like Flux, TB, Vindi, and Sand Wraith) apply five single target spells, one to every enemy hero. Single target spells get blocked by nullstone. This is also why they apply the Frostwolf Skull debuff to everyone. /thread
    So you are saying that TB and vindi ulti should apply slow
    from frostwulfs as well? Nah
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    There's nothing to fix, it's working fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAMO View Post
    So you are saying that TB and vindi ulti should apply slow
    from frostwulfs as well? Nah
    that's exactly what he's sayin and he speaks the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAMO View Post
    So you are saying that TB and vindi ulti should apply slow
    from frostwulfs as well? Nah
    So you're saying you know what S2 intended to do with all their game mechanics..? If it's really a bug then it wouldn't still be around considering how well known it is.

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    It's because of how the global spells were coded in DotA and the behavior hasn't been changed since then.
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    trick question: if you have null stone on moraxus and you activate his spell absorb skill, what happens please?

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    Moraxus shield procs first, it has higher priority.

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    Whilst I'm sure it's working as intended, perhaps this is another example of HoN's non-newbie friendliness. There is not a word in any of the tooltips for those ults or for Null Stone that would lead you to expect this mechanic. Another thing you have to learn from (bad) experience.

    Expecting people to say it's "part of the high skill ceiling of HoN".

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    Thanks jotain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelfana View Post
    It's because of how the global spells were coded in DotA and the behavior hasn't been changed since then.
    Except that's only true for Zeus(TB). Neither Spectre(Sandwraith)'s nor Silencer(Vindicator)'s ultimates trigger Linken's(Nullstone).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polarization View Post
    Except that's only true for Zeus(TB). Neither Spectre(Sandwraith)'s nor Silencer(Vindicator)'s ultimates trigger Linken's(Nullstone).
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but..

    If actiontype="global" and targetscheme="enemy heroes", the spell acts as 5 individual single target spells cast on each enemy hero, And it's intented.

    And guess what?

    actiontype="global"
    targetscheme="enemy_heroes"

    Are found in Flux' ulti

    EDIT:
    actiontype="global" just means it targets everything single-target wise that fits the targetscheme.

    If it was AoE then it would have spawned an affector or did an <areaofeffect /> call
    Thus I was correct, although what I said might have been a bit confusing for some.
    WOHOO, I WASN'T WRONG!
    Last edited by Jezu; 09-04-2011 at 06:02 AM.

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    actiontype="global" just means it targets everything single-target wise that fits the targetscheme.

    If it was AoE then it would have spawned an affector or did an <areaofeffect /> call

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