How do I disable auto attack?
This gets me killed A LOT.
It's like the game has a mind of its own.
Use the Hold Position (H) key or bind it to your space bar to make it easier to hit while using abilities
dont? go? in? range?
Hit? S? Alot?
Because your hero naturally will engage in combat. It's up to you to either spam-right click move commands or press H.
If you hold position your hero will do nothing of its own volition, even if someone comes up and starts killing you.
Why don't they just make it so your hero stands still until you tell him what to do?
I play keeper of the forest and all of a sudden he'lll charge into a defense tower and take a bunch of hits.
I'm getting so annoyed with that. This HAS to be a bug.
Last edited by luzarius; 10-14-2009 at 03:50 PM.
MAN that is definitely not a bug..The solution? If you are getting too close to a tower, tell your hero to back up? That is entirely your fault if you aren't watching your hero. If you ever played RTS before thats how it is for ALL GAMES. Units will automatically target the nearest enemy unit when it comes in close range. The point is to keep your units under control. just press H to hold position if you don't want your hero to do anything.
Omg, press H and that's it. Units have AI, you override it with H.
That keeper of the forest gets excited way too easily.
I highly recommend playing practice mode and learning to effectively use right click to direct your hero where he wants to go.
You can also use practice mode to learn how to hit the H key and really practice your ability to hold position.
I'm always in favor of changing the game to overcome my basic lack of micro skills. You have my vote sir.
I will not buy this game until they fix it. It drives me nuts and I cannot get used to it. They are going to lose a lot of money over not fixing this bug.
Learning to deal with something that is broken IS NOT SKILL.
I see ranged heroes standing perfectly still attacking defense towers. And me as a melee I'm struggling to prevent him from just running into and getting hit by the tower. This is just ridiculously stupid.
You guys have been playing this game for years. but I'm a new player looking in from the outside. I'll tell you right now that most new players are gonna hate this and will probably not buy the game because of the lack of control.
Auto attack MUST be allowed to be disabled.
Last edited by luzarius; 10-14-2009 at 04:40 PM.
This must be a troll post.
Last edited by TreeHorse; 10-14-2009 at 05:00 PM.
Definitly a troll. Just press H.
If you can't do that, enjoy your deaths.
I understand where you are coming from, when I was new to RTSes I was annoyed out of my mind about the auto attacking. All I can Recommend you doing is to constantly command your hero to move to stop the auto attacking. Or if that does not work, Play Warcraft 3, Starcraft, AoE, or any other RTS and get used to the Auto Attacking then play Heroes of Newerth again.
Before we get started, I want to remind everyone that I am not an employee of S2 or an S2 Staff. I will cite as many facts as I can, but I am also stating my opinion.
Secondly, your financial predictions are based on your own personal opinion. I know, for a fact, that many people will buy this game. Why? They already have. The people who have not pre-ordered (myself included) have many various reasons. You have no idea the percentage of users that are refraining because of this sole "flaw". Yourself excluded, I have not heard of anyone say they wouldn't buy simply because of this. They may be frustrated, but they didn't say they wouldn't buy.
On to the important stuff:
As a consumer, it is your choice to buy or not buy something based on your enjoyment. That is arguably the most powerful tool a consumer has to show their opinion. However, you must realize a few things. First of all, not buying something until it gets changed is not a valid argument. The reason for this is that you are not contributing money in order to make that change. That change costs money. There are thousands of people who have paid to have it the way it is and changing it will alienate them to fit your one will.
By buying it, you become a customer instead of a consumer. As a customer, they are more apt to listen to you. They want to keep your business and they will try harder to do so. You should buy the game and ask them to make the change for you. Make a poll. See how many people want it the other way.
You are correct. However, this is not a bug. See above.Learning to deal with something that is broken IS NOT SKILL.
The major downfall of melee heroes is that they have to get close to deal damage while ranged heroes are generally take more damage if they do get hit. It's the trade-off. You chose to play a melee hero, you should expect to take damage, and you should compensate for that.I see ranged heroes standing perfectly still attacking defense towers. And me as a melee I'm struggling to prevent him from just running into and getting hit by the tower. This is just ridiculously stupid.
As far as your scenario, there is no hero in the game that can stand back far enough to not take damage from a tower while also damaging the tower. This would break the balance of the game. I guarantee you that those ranged heroes purposefully positioned themselves where they did to take the least amount of shots from the tower (as a tower will often hit creeps before heroes).
You may be new, and you may not understand the mechanics of the game, but I assure you that there is a control to disable auto-attacks. It is called "hold". Press H (or remap the command to something easier, like the spacebar) and press it when you do not want to auto-attack. This will also mean you cannot move but you can't move while attacking anyway so that's not a problem. Move to where you want to go, press hold, move to where you want to go, press hold. Hit when you want. It really, really isn't difficult.You guys have been playing this game for years. but I'm a new player looking in from the outside. I'll tell you right now that most new players are gonna hate this and will probably not buy the game because of the lack of control.
Auto attack MUST be allowed to be disabled.
This is undoubtedly one of the hardest games I've ever played. I've been playing off and on for almost 5 years now and I'm still not a pro. I understand your pain and I do empathize with your stance but the fact remains that without the auto-attack ability, heroes would not attack when they are near other heroes or creeps.
Do you know how incredibly difficult it would be if someone came out of invisibility or was obscured and so you didn't start attacking them or you had to react and attack them manually?
I assure you that your already difficult choice of a hero would be much harder to play if you had to manually select who you wanted to attack each time.
@Everyone: I am leaving this thread open so you can discuss whether or not the auto-attack should have a "disable" option but I'm pretty sure that I've explained exactly why that is not only unfeasible but ridiculous.
Please keep this thread on topic or let it die. Flaming, trolling, mocking, etc by any post following this one, regardless of poster, will warrant a severe punishment.
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I agree, there should be an option for you to turn autoattacking off. Not in 300 games have I ever wanted my HERO to autoattack while moving with the right-mouse button, I always press A and target.
Or someone needs to just make a mod that spams h cuz the majority of us don't want s2 to waste their time doing this ****....
Personally, i cope with it by spamming the right click button.
Just don't stop moving. If you don't have the attention to keep this up, this is definitely not the game for you. It takes like one click every 2 seconds to prevent your hero from auto-attacking. HoN actually made it easier for you by implementing hold which completely stops your hero from doing anything.
I have to feel the original poster is a troll, looking at this and his other topic.
I'd like the option to enable auto attack WHILE holding position, perhaps shift+h/alt+h?
When blood hunter ulti's me I want to stay still and attack him when he comes into range. I don't want to right click him to attack, then watch him run away making me move as well thus taking damage from hemorrhage.. would be nice?
this happens a lot, don't tell me "you took less damage from his ulti than if he was attacking you" because less damage isn't no damage