The OFFICIAL DOTA2 Thread

[Lethe]

They picked me! No one ever picks me.
Running's not as fun as hitting. Not one bit fun.

Classics.

[Beanybag]

Still waiting for swap to be implemented.

Also, agree with the imbalanced matchmaking and the long queue timers. I don't think I've lost a single game in a 5-person queue, but if I queue as 3, or sometimes even 4, that random can sometimes be so bad as to completely throw out the game and it's happened. I don't have a big problem with leavers though, it doesn't seem to happen too often.

[[Loli]Gohka]

I'll get into this beta eventually so I can complain with you guys.

[JeanLuc]

Oh fk I think I still have 3 dota 2 invites. Hat you need one? anyone?

I need one!!!

[[GnJA]Good_Apollo]

Maybe it's a case of DONTLIKECHANGE but those new dash/pick screens look awful.

[[FUR]kerespup]

The new pick screen is kind of one of the kinds you'd use if you were supposed to unlock Heroes.

[Laramii]

But you wont unlock heroes in dota2, they will be all free.

[Bobble]

I'll get into this beta eventually so I can complain with you guys.

Wait, you don't have one? What's your steam account again?

[Beanybag]

Yeah, new pick screen confirmed to be the actual worst. Don't know what they were thinking, but it's dumb as hell to look through the hero pool now.

[nigmorris]

Yeah, new pick screen confirmed to be the actual worst. Don't know what they were thinking, but it's dumb as hell to look through the hero pool now.

They are just testing. Pretty sure they'll change it again. I like the new normal interface (needs some tweaks, but overall it's nice) - but the picking screen is horrible. I guess I don't mind it too much since I only random but well.. it's bad.

[[GnJA]Good_Apollo]

Yeah, new pick screen confirmed to be the actual worst. Don't know what they were thinking, but it's dumb as hell to look through the hero pool now.

QFT seriously what the ****?? I thought they had also included the grid mode but the second you click a hero just to even look at it it goes back to the card scrolling. How the **** is scrolling through 100 heroes easier than looking at them all on a grid? I don't get their logic AT ALL.

I don't really have a problem with the aesthetic changes...but functionally it's horrible.

[sherpa]

The menu screen is fine but what the **** is up with the card-based hero selection screen? It goes out of its way to be unintuitive. My favourite bit is how it hides which team you're on if you switch to grid view.

[Laramii]

Its been tested...i think they should change some things there.

[skeloperch]

Ogre Magi's voice acting is...soooo good

Only a DOTA2drone could think this. I nearly punched my monitor for what they did to my precious Ogre. I guess I'm stuck playing HoN until someone finally manages to release a better ARTS.

Also lol at that kid saying HoN heroes suck and kill you in a 2 second combo when that's exactly what IceFraud has been releasing recently. Has anyone even actually played the original DotA recently?

[[Loli]Loli]

Only a DOTA2drone could think this. I nearly punched my monitor for what they did to my precious Ogre. I guess I'm stuck playing HoN until someone finally manages to release a better ARTS.

Also lol at that kid saying HoN heroes suck and kill you in a 2 second combo when that's exactly what IceFraud has been releasing recently. Has anyone even actually played the original DotA recently?

Once again skeloperch brings some comedy to the forums in a poor attempt to bash the people who like things he doesn't like.

Ogre Magi's voice acting is fine. I enjoy the script more than the voice acting itself but either way it's fine.
As for new hero release with these two second combos, name them. Skywrath can do it if you're alone and immobilized/stunned, but that's it. Your statement is simply flawed.

[skeloperch]

Once again skeloperch brings some comedy to the forums in a poor attempt to bash the people who like things he doesn't like.

Ogre Magi's voice acting is fine. I enjoy the script more than the voice acting itself but either way it's fine.
As for new hero release with these two second combos, name them. Skywrath can do it if you're alone and immobilized/stunned, but that's it. Your statement is simply flawed.

Just keep deluding yourself that his voice is anywhere near good. The script? Yeah, it's good. Voice acting itself? ****ing horrible. I would rather listen to Rune Factory 2's voices than that pile of garbage. Normally I like DOTA2's voice acting, but even I admit they dropped the ball with that one.

Skywrath, Tuskarr, and Shadow Demon off the top of my head. How many HoN heroes can 2-second combo you? Monkey King, Ra, and maybe Gemini. HoN heroes also tend to be more FUN than DotA heroes (C'mon, he released like 4 fun heroes within the past 2 years).

[[Loli]Loli]

They're suppose to sound like idiots and they do. I'm not a fan of the british fool just because I don't like that kind of voice but the other is fine.

Tuskarr can't do that unless he's absurdly farmed or you're already low enough for the 4x crit. Skywrath needs an immobolize or stun on one target not near any others for his combo to work, which he can't do on his own and I really don't think you understand how shadow demon works. He has to stack that poison at least 4 times on a 3 second cooldown. How is that 2? Not sure. I guess Bristleback 2 second combos people too then.

[skeloperch]

They're suppose to sound like idiots and they do. I'm not a fan of the british fool just because I don't like that kind of voice but the other is fine.

Tuskarr can't do that unless he's absurdly farmed or you're already low enough for the 4x crit. Skywrath needs an immobolize or stun on one target not near any others for his combo to work, which he can't do on his own and I really don't think you understand how shadow demon works. He has to stack that poison at least 4 times on a 3 second cooldown. How is that 2? Not sure. I guess Bristleback 2 second combos people too then.

Really? I prefer him over the one that screeches at you.

Point being? Ra can't really touch you unless you've ****ed up your positioning, he's horrendously fed, or you were disabled prior. He makes this disgusting RAAAAAAAAAA sound and shoots out a giant flaming meteor, the contours of which are laid out on the ground in giant flame art. Monkey King's comboes last longer than two seconds anyways. Gemini takes two seconds just to get his first combo off and split into wolves. I thought we were talking figuratively two seconds. If that isn't the case, then there are no HoN heroes that can 2-second combo you. Only DotA heroes like Pebbles, Valkyrie, TB, and Pyromancer can.

[[Loli]Loli]

No that's what I'm saying. The screechy one sucks.

What people complain about in HoN is the number of heroes with raw burst damage. Combo or abilities that deal massive amounts quickly with no real skillshot, coordination from other heroes, or positioning needed. That's heroes like MK and Gemini. Ra is just a "tanky DPS" which is just annoying to deal with in pub play, nothing more.

You'll note that Shadow Demon takes 4 skills shots stacked to deal his, and the target needs to be away from other targets for the damage amp, and skywrath needs someone to stand still alone for 2 seconds for his ult to deal the full damage. MK and Gemini don't need anything else to make their abilities work. They're fully synergetic on their own and still deal massive burst, AND are still semi-carries.

[skeloperch]

No that's what I'm saying. The screechy one sucks.

What people complain about in HoN is the number of heroes with raw burst damage. Combo or abilities that deal massive amounts quickly with no real skillshot, coordination from other heroes, or positioning needed. That's heroes like MK and Gemini. Ra is just a "tanky DPS" which is just annoying to deal with in pub play, nothing more.

You'll note that Shadow Demon takes 4 skills shots stacked to deal his, and the target needs to be away from other targets for the damage amp, and skywrath needs someone to stand still alone for 2 seconds for his ult to deal the full damage. MK and Gemini don't need anything else to make their abilities work. They're fully synergetic on their own and still deal massive burst, AND are still semi-carries.

Understood. The screechy one still rapes my ears. I was looking forward to fireballin' some hoes, but then this happened.

HoN heroes don't even have that much burst. Out of the past 10 heroes, we've had Artillery with his ulti, Gun Blade with his ulti and Q, Ellonia with her stun, Blitz with his ulti and Q, Rift Walker with her ulti, and I guess Artesia (even though her damage is more sustained spikes. She's basically a shittier Leshrac). In fact, the last 10 DotA heroes have had more overall burst than HoN heroes.

Besides, MK has to walk up to you so he can use his dash in the combo, or else he's missing a huge chunk of damage, and you have to have no mobility spell of any kind, or his combo is ruined. Gemini has to get you within a certain distance from him to stun you, and then he has to channel for a second to split into wolves, and then has to micro two squishy wolves that die just as easily as a support hero. People's problems with burst heroes is that they suck at handling burst. That's why Ra was at the top of the pub list, and Valkyrie damn well near the bottom.