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Thread: The OFFICIAL DOTA2 Thread
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Fnatic wont get invited for TI 2 i guess, they are just not on par yet and i dont think this will change till TI2.
More invites than 16 Teams, pretty unlikely considering valve spent like 3 million for travel costs, visas etc for TI1.
And the NA scene will prolly only get 2-3 invites max. Chinese alone will get like 3-4 invites, SEA another 2-4 prolly, CIS alone will get 3+ and like 2-3 for EU teams.
So, seems CMs frost nova radius was buffed to 1k. She just got a ton better.
That would remove the fun from dota. Thats why there arent Wodota funny videos for Hon. I want those bugs kept in dota.Originally Posted by Juspion
The turn rate is different in dota2. In Hon is superfast because there are a lot of burst heroes, but in dota thats more slow.Sorry, I've forgotten to check in here to reply lately (since last time I posted).
Might only be me, but playing a few games of DotA2 and then log on HoN again, everything feels so much faster in HoN. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't but there was some sort of different for me. Is that just me or do other feel there is some sort of speed difference?
By no means do I mean that DotA2 has a slower reaction phase or anything. It's still easy to land lasthits and abilities (but I still got a problem with landing slower AoEs (like I do in HoN)).
You can see more that by playing heroes like Jakiro. Hes very heavy, but thats the same in dota and thats the way it goes.
Just so you know Juspion, you're not suppose to be able to get forced/vacuumed/w.e'd up onto a cliff that you can't get off of. It suppose to put you down at the closest free area. Right now that's a glitch in Dota 2, as is mentioned in the bugs forums. It's not been "denied by dotards", it's just a bug. Get over yourself.
didnt dota 1 have an unstuck feature that took like a minute to kick in? i havent gotten "truly" stuck yet i on dota 2 anyways. most of the time its me just being careless with blinks and treewalking skills like spectre.
Anyone else sick to death of seeing Pudge in pretty much every game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPS2Y3HAFfc
Can be done with Dark Seer and Push Stick too.
What are you talking about? People are picking pudge alot? I've seen him maybe once every 4 games.
Don't see pudge that often and if someone first picks on the other side with pudge, I just call mid and pick Viper. Pudge then has a nice time sitting at 100HP by his tower.
Making people rage for over 400 games
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some1 saw korok storm spirit game saturday? ;O
Korok's Storm Spirit dive into the Kongor pit was beyond epic. That's what they get for letting Korok get SS.
holy crap ss can ult between 2 games
Alright, after playing quite a bit of Dota I have a review. HoN Ports VS Original Dota Heroes! I will be basing this primarily on flavor and quality of the hero character, since most dota ports in hon have been substantially upgraded in many ways - I will only occasionally take actual power of the hero into account on occasion.
First up...
Earth Shaker > Behemoth
Behemoth is just a giant land whale with no character depth and nothing interesting to say. To add insult to injury, HoN nerfed Behemoth to be worse than his DoTa counterpart. Earthshaker didn't have much to do in order to trounce Behemoth but he went ahead and crushed him anyway. Earthshaker is awesome and has the coolest voice and is the best. Not even close here.
Sven < Hammerstorm
Neither Sven nor Hammerstorm are really much to be excited about, but Hammerstorm's stun is a lot better than Sven's and his character is a little more fun.
Beast Master< Tundra
I like the flavor of Tundra just a bit more than Beast Master, and cold shoulder is a lot more fun than a move/attack speed passive. Tundra also shouts "FREEZE" when he ults and it looks a whole bunch cooler.
Clockwerk < Pharaoh
Try as he might, Clockwerk is just not Pharaoh. Pharaoh is cooler and better than Clockwerk in all ways. Plus, Pharaoh has his own car dealership called Pharaoh's Used Car Emporium and he also hungers for THE SWEET TASTE OF SOULS! Yeah, I think it really comes down to how much better Pharaoh's abilities are, especially the ult and mummies. I think his nukes might cost more mana than Clockwerk's, for what that's worth.
Axe > Legionnaire
Lack of beard really did Lego in here. This one was kinda hard to judge since Axe REALLY sucks compared to Lego, but character-wise they're pretty much the same.
Pudge < Devourer
Another close one, but Pudge really only has giant boobs and Elvis hair going for him. Devourer's abilities are all strictly better than Pudge's, especially his rot, holy ****. Other than that, they really are just the same. I think I like Devourer more because his rot damage is updated every frame instead of every second or so, and that makes rot a lot cooler feeling.
Slardar < Pestilence
First of all, Pestilence is a bug. Second of all, Slardar is a fish. They're both really cool though and Slardar actually edges out in terms of power in a lot of ways. But gotta give it to the swarm - Pestilence is just too cool. And also a Ladybug and Ladybugs are the best.
Tiny = Pebbles
These heroes have really comparable power - I think Pebbles edges out in terms of nuking power, it just feels better in HoN, but Tiny has a really cool Scepter upgrade. Both of the characters are really awesome, but Tiny might just be better. Willing to call it a tie though.
Kunkka > Gladiator
Failboat actually got Kunkka the win here. Gladiator is probably stronger in HoN, but not enough so to matter. Adventurer Gladiator was fun though.
Sand King < Magmus
Not even close. Crix just sounds like a sandy bag of ****. Magmus is so bubbly and burbly. And he knows when to take a knee. He also generously will give steam baths to his teammates. And Magmus also takes care of business.
Tidehunter > Kraken
They really are so different that this comparison is not even relevant. But Tidehunter is too great. He's just the hungriest little ****er.
Leoric/Skeleton King > Amun Ra
Another sketchy comparison, but I had to put Ra in here somewhere so I could talk about how Ra is just the shittiest. **** that guy. Seriously, I hate him so much. I only decide that he is allowed to exist but Cleopatra Pharaoh likes him so much and thinks he's dreamy. Also, the fling between Phoenix Ra and Zephyr is priceless. That Zephyr bro really knows how to party, I really can't blame her for falling for that party bird.
Omniknight < Jeraziah
Really sucks that Omniknight isn't Arthas anymore. Lost a lot of points from that. But Jereziah sucks so hard that I can't give him any points. No mercy for the douchebag.
Nature's Prophet > Keeper of the Forest ( > Rooftrellen)
I don't even think this needs to be explained much. But **** Keeper and **** Rooftrellen even more for being the worst hero to lane with ever.
Lifestealer > Predator
Predator is an annoying grunting mess. Naix is a disgusting, terrifying monster. They both suck. But Lifestealer has this weird infest ability and I guess it's kinda cool.
Spirit Breaker < Rampage
Spirit Breaker really has nothing going for him. He has a random bash that makes people build Mask of Madness on him and he just sucks. Rampage reworked is so much better. Plus, he rides a rhino. And that rhino's name is Horatio. Pretty much the coolest. Also, Rainbow Rampage.
Lycan >
Drow Ranger < Arachna
Arachna is a bug, has a cool ult, and doesn't make weird orgasm noises when she takes damage.
Vengeful Spirit < Andromeda
God, I miss Andromeda so much. Vengeful Spirit is just... not. Ugh. Her stun scales to the full stun duration at level 4, Andromeda's doesn't. If you include Mandromeda, there is no contest.
Antimage < Magebane
Besides Magebane just being better (I don't care about magic resistance passive, Magebane's blink is so much better), they are really exactly the same. Antimage runs really dumb when he gets haste, so that lost him some points. Also, he's an *******.
Spectre = Sand Wraith
And they are both equal to zero.
Faceless Void > Chronos
Void is better than Chronos in terms of power, which is weird, since Chronos is the HoN port. Both of them are pretty garbage characters, but at least Faceless Void has better puns.
Shadow Fiend > Soul Stealer
Soul Stealer is a lot better than Shadow Fiend in power. And Shadow Fiend looks really dumb when he walks. But they are really just too similar. I gave it to SF because his ult looks a lot cooler.
Razor > Corrupted Disciple
Razor is cooler.
Mirana > Valkyrie
I like Valkyrie better, but they're really just the same hero. That gives the tie breaker to Dota for being the original.
Venomancer < Slither
Slither is just so FEEEEINDISH and SINISTER! He's just great.
Blood Seeker > Blood Hunter
Blood Hunter is a STUPID ****ING BAT. Also, I really like the interaction between Blood Seeker's ult and blinks and the like. Especially like the force staff interaction.
Sniper < Flint Beastwood
Flint is better and not a stupid annoying little ****. Also, if I see these heroes get Mask of Madness and a Shadow Blade in one more game, I will rip out my eyes.
Riki < Nighthound
As much as I hate goat-things, Night Hound is the most annoying hero in the entire game of HoN (in terms of character). I just can't stand him. So.. gross. Also, getting invis rune on Riki is awesome.
Juggernaut = Swiftblade
Hate both of these. Neither of them get points.
Lone Druid < Wild Soul
Wild Soul had the decency to name his bear.
Puck < Bubbles
Puck is too cute. Like, actually too much that it's annoying. Puck has a better hide ability, but Bubble's is cuter. And the hero concept just makes so much more sense as a turtle instead of a weird fairy thing.
Storm Spirit > Dr Repulsor\
Storm Spirit is so awesome.. first he's over here then he's over there. That tricky bastard. Dr gets points for being Bombardier's bother, I guess. Bomba was pretty cool.
Chen > Ophelia
They're pretty much the same in terms of sucking (character-wise). So, tie-breaker gives credit to the original.
Enigma < Tempest
Neither of these characters are really that great, but Enigma's abilities all look terrible. I really like the way Tempest's abilities look, though, especially meteor.
Dazzle > Demented Shaman
This one was SOOO close. I love Demented Shaman so much, and he's also just a lot better than Dazzle - Dazzle just isn't good. But, Dazzle is one crazy mother ****er. DAZZLEEEEEE!
Lich > Plague Rider
Once I found out that Plague Rider's dragon doesn't have a name, he lost a lot of points. Lich is actually better than Plague Rider, too. It's ridiculous. These heroes are retarded good. But Lich sacrifices creeps for the greater good... his.
Leshrac < Torturer
Torturer is one of my favorite hero concepts and is so much better than Leshrac (super stupidly broken, actually). Not only that, but Leshrac is another douchebag undead goat thing. Hate goats.
Zeus > Thunder-bringer
Thunderbringer has nothing going for him. Zeus is at least a little funny. Both of them suck pretty bad.
Lina < Pyromancer
God. Lina is just soooo garbage. I loved Pyromancer so much.. why can't Lina just be Pyromancer? Pyromancer's passive gives him a stacking dot AND reduces his casting time on his skills. But most of all, he tells his enemies to CATCH THIS right in the face.
Shadow Shaman < Pollywog Priest
I think this really highlights how much better HoN heroes are than Dota ones, especially with concerns to ability graphics and animations. Pollywog is just so *****in, and he's always high off his ass. His voodoo wards are really cool and using his tongue to stun is a lot more awesome than stupid SS. SS's abilities are just ugly looking.
Necrolyte < Soul Reaper
They both really suck. But Soul Raper knows how lucky you are that he lets you order him around. That's pretty cool.
Witch Doctor > Voodoo Jester
Wait for it... Waaaaait for iiiiit. Yeah, Witch Doctor wins.
Crystal Maiden < Glacius
Let's break it down. Glacius is a black guy, riding a frozen skateboard waving around a frozen chicken wing. Crystal Maiden is an annoying girl who doesn't float around on anything. Yeah, not even a contest.
Lion < Witch Slayer
Witch Slayer likes traveling together, has a shot gun, stuns people with a ****ing graveyard and isn't an ugly piece of ****. Seriously, finger of death? Lame.
Queen of Pain < Wretched Hag
Queen of Pain is cool, I like her, and her slow is better. But Wretched Hag is just a little bit better. Her hatred of bright places pushed her over.
Silencer < Vindicator
Come at me.
Warloc < Hellbringer
Again. Name your pets. Don't be an *******. Warloc has so much going for him too.. if only he named his demon. Also, pity points to Hell Bringer for not having legs. Poor guy.
Death Prophet > Defiler
Yeah, don't really know here. I just don't like Defiler that much.
Bane < Succubus
Bane's ult just looks so stupid. I can't take it.
Yeah. So. Overall score.
Dota: 20
Hon: 27
I kinda miss HoN.
The second Valve releases Aussie servers im out of here. S2 heroes are S2 heroes. S2 balance is S2 balance
And pudge..just to sexy to resist
Gonna take a while, but they will come. You australians got weird routing from your providers, same for BRs. They have to contact the ISPs first and they have to fix their routing to the servers, then it's gonna happen. :P
I don't understand - if you think the HoN hero designs generally better, why don't you play it? I still haven't seen your reasons for playing DotA over HoN.I kinda miss hon
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