Energizer

[[AZ]Machiavelli`]

What do you good players think of it?

Support item? Worth buying it on carries? Needs nerf/buff?

First impressions of the new item plx ^_^b

[SmackTrick]

I just hate the new astrolabe without armor. Even with cheaper total cost >: (

[[p12a]valleFAN]

I believe it's pretty viable on Andro

[Skyve]

I just hate the new astrolabe without armor. Even with cheaper total cost >: (

My guess would be that that was a reaction to the whole Plague Rider Armor + Astro Labe domination going on in higher level games right now :P

[`Mishka]

Seems like jango from dota, most likely to see it picked up on utility heroes

[Schiz]

More likely pickd up on gankers, getting steamboots instead of marchers.

[[ISR]X_Raider]

It seems solid for supporters, cheap and effective. CD may be too big imo but we will see.

I just hate that the main attribute is agi. str or int would make much more sense.

[[oi]dfhgidufg]

100 mana is too much

the astrolabe changes are awful, and should be reverted

[[2MD2]Pza]

I don't think it has that many uses. Tablet offers basically same utility (chasing & escaping) that energizer does while Energizer can't be used against pharaoh, panda, kraken, etc. ulties or to climb over cliffs.

Even for agi chars, the stats alone on tablet are pretty much better:
tablet:
+4 Strength
+4 Agility
+14 Intelligence
+10 Damage

vs.

Energizer:
+7 Strength
+10 Agility
+7 Intelligence


I dunno... I think the speed burst needs to be higher (80-100) and the duration can then be shortened to 3s. That or instead of just givng 50ms to team mates, it could also have 50ms debuff on enemies aswell. Obviously I'm not a competetive player myself, but as a support player I really don't see a point for picking this item up instead of tablet in pretty much any situation.

*edit* That, or make it purge all slow effects from team mates when used (while also giving that ms boost).

[[ToCK]BlakeDarko]

peb with steams for more mana and energizer = gg

[[TANK]BadaBing]

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[SmackTrick]

peb with steams for more mana and energizer = gg

wat.

[Boinkmoo]

shitty jango but still worth getting everygame

[[Call]imJukin]

I think the mana cost on Energizer is far too high and there is no reason to pick it up over a tablet.

Sure its a teamwide buff, but 50 movespeed for 100 mana and unitwalking? A tablet goes over all terrain. The duration of 50 movespeed is hardly enough to catch anyone off guard. Maybe make it 70 movespeed for 4 seconds, and only 50 or 75 manacost.

[john4014]

I think the mana cost on Energizer is far too high and there is no reason to pick it up over a tablet.

Sure its a teamwide buff, but 50 movespeed for 100 mana and unitwalking? A tablet goes over all terrain. The duration of 50 movespeed is hardly enough to catch anyone off guard. Maybe make it 70 movespeed for 4 seconds, and only 50 or 75 manacost.

Ghost marchers on a 300ms base hero gives 44~ ms burst. I'm pretty sure that is enough to make a difference in chasing or running.

[Kzod]

the cooldown is huge and tablet offers more utility imo

[Lethe]

honestly the only hero I think that could remotely use this is Slither or Andro.

Keep in mind the rather high mana cost is offset by the recipe anyway.

Not the best addition but better than having simple soulscream rings that no one uses anyway.

[[LC]WindRaven]

There's no way this is viable on any agi hero with a 100 mana cost.

[[Poni]kippetje]

it gives a good edge in teamfights/ganks. I can see this getting picked up by some gankers

[[weak]proscoutKS]

pretty much all the new additions suck