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Thread: Create a button to quick-upgrade monkey to flying courier anywhere on map (now with pictures!)

View Poll Results: Do you want an "upgrade courier" button?

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  • Yes! Finally a unique and useful suggestion. It'll be so nice to upgrade mid-trip.

    115 82.14%
  • No! I prefer to wait for the courier to return to base and overpay 200g by fumbling thru the shop.

    25 17.86%
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    Create a button to quick-upgrade monkey to flying courier anywhere on map (now with pictures!)

    SUGGESTION:

    -While your walking courier is selected, add a button (SEE PICTURE BELOW) that upgrades it into a winged courier and charges 200 gold. This button would be similar to and in addition to the existing "alternate courier skin" and "lock courier" buttons.
    -this button can be used at any time... if an ally is busy using the courier your team may upgrade it mid trip.
    -The winged courier item/recipe would also be removed from the shop (obsoleted by this new mechanism).

    Proposed:


    Current:



    REASONING:

    1) Forcing a team to return the walking courier back to base in order to upgrade it has little strategic impact and is mostly a nuisance.
    2) Now that the secret shop has been removed the winged courier is MUCH more critical to team success in pub games.
    3) It is very frequent that a walking courier is in use at the moment your support is ready to make the upgrade.
    4) A courier with all 6 item slots filled can be upgraded without dropping anything.
    5) Much easier and faster to upgrade than to revisit the shop (while making sure the courier is selected). No more accidentally buying winged courier directly to your stash.
    6) An ally can upgrade the courier without canceling/interrupting your delivery command. (How many times have you had a teammate return the courier to well after about a 1000 unit walk in order to upgrade it in an attempt to help you get your item faster?)
    7) Literally impossible to buy two winged courier recipes (which DOESN'T have a cooldown btw). I have had two games this month where two separate support allies attempted to upgrade simultaneously. This typically happens after the carry says "upgrade courier please" and two people volunteer.
    8) There is currently a bug with buying the winged courier in shop such that the game overcharges you 200g (so your total courier cost is 600g). This this post about it: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...d.php?t=289085


    DOWNSIDE:

    Potential mis-click-oops-I-just-accidentally-"wasted"-200-gold-to-help-the-team.
    Last edited by MacroHard; 07-15-2011 at 12:15 PM.

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    Added pictures for clarification, bumped.

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    As I am normally stuck playing support I really can get behind this suggestion.

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    Feedback has been promising so far so I want to keep this on the front page.

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    I was thinking bout this feature the other day. I support it.

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    or

    BRGWQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by iTzMatt View Post
    or

    BRGWQ
    ...because BRGWQ is clearly faster, easier to remember, and more intuitive for beginning and mid level players.

    Also BRGWQ cannot be used mid-trip, which is the most important feature of this suggestion.

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    Daily bump. Still high approval.

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    daily bump

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    S2 already removed hidden shop, I don't see why they wouldn't implement this

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    Midtrip, no.

    BUT, adding a simple button and skipping the recipe shenanigans would be welcomed. Only active at base of course (like the skin change).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berra_la View Post
    Midtrip, no.

    BUT, adding a simple button and skipping the recipe shenanigans would be welcomed. Only active at base of course (like the skin change).
    I appreciate your honesty. =)

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    bumpy bumperton

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    Daily bump. Please remember to leave comments or questions.
    Last edited by MacroHard; 07-06-2011 at 11:15 AM.

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    I play like 90% support and hate shortcuts (Im a lazy person). I would love this.

    This won't affect anything in the coompedative since all team buy a flying from the start.

    Only outcome of this is making the game easier to new ppl and pugs who won't have to annoy each other with using the cour wile Im trying to uppgrade it...

  16. #16
    I voted no. For both cases.
    Firstly, mid trip upgrade is a pretty unnecessary change. Imagine your walking courier being chased by an enemy and you just happen to find 200g, upgrade it and activate its shield.
    Secondly, There is a button that upgrades the courier but it's activated only after you purchase the recipe. This is part of the game. You need to find ways of buying stuff without going afk or back to the well. That's why we have hotkeys on the shop... Its all about practice. A friend of mine never uses shop hotkeys and still buys faster than me...

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    The idea is to spend less effort, energy, memorization, and practice for the mechanics of the game (ie hotkeys... one of the reason the QWER spell system is superior to the QWERTDFGZXCVB system of DOTA). This way players can concentrate more on the game itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacroHard View Post
    The idea is to spend less effort, energy, memorization, and practice for the mechanics of the game (ie hotkeys... one of the reason the QWER spell system is superior to the QWERTDFGZXCVB system of DOTA). This way players can concentrate more on the game itself.
    Its not part of the mechanics, its part of the strategy of the game. Else we would have only flying monkeys without having to upgrade them. You can use BR[shift-G] and you got the recipe for less than 0.5s... Anyway, that's where I stand. Good luck on the poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiougar View Post
    Its not part of the mechanics, its part of the strategy of the game. Else we would have only flying monkeys without having to upgrade them. You can use BR[shift-G] and you got the recipe for less than 0.5s... Anyway, that's where I stand. Good luck on the poll
    With the courier its a balance between spending the gold versus the benefit of using it.

    I dont suggest changing the costs of anything, simply making it easier and more convenient to make the transaction.

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    Bumping again. About halfway to "popular"

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