Here is the question:
Can nymphora be good carry or at least do good dmg with normal attakc(+codex maybe)??? I mean when she is not played like support. I ask that because I saw few games in which nymphora pwns but that was on low MMR and PSR games...SO can anyone above 1600 MMR answer me? I would like to know how nymph is played in high MMR games aslo ;P
she is pure support, has horrible stat gains, has nothing at all to increase auto damage and none of her skills are that amazing for that kinda thing, the best one is here stun which lets her get off a few attacks, but it lets your carry get off some too.
she use to be a good carry(well possible carry) when she had an amazing AS boost with her zeal stun.
I don't think you should ever play carry nymph and I haven't seen it since beta when her stun would increase attack speed.
As far as aether or not she's used in higher level games, I'm curious about that as well.
In 1600 to 1700 games I only choose her to support with IF we need a Ward ***** and I can lane with a heavy spell hero like behe, TB, or Pyro to feed them mana. Her heals seems rather weak unless you hit your whole team with it.
played with 1850 MMR friend of mine who went mid with nymphora and carried hard, but then again, he was much better than the average player in that game. I think you'll find it nearly impossible to carry with nymph in a balanced game.
I kinda figure she was buffed earlier into being a possible candidate for a carry role. I THINK, personally, IMHO, they reworked her original carryable Nymphora into Aluna, as some of the skillsets appear to work the same way.
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But the video's you're most likely seeing are from long ago when her stun would give her an AS increase for each hero she hits. She was one of the best pubstompers back then. You would play pusher early game to have some mad farm, then get tclaw and savage to truly dps and carry. I remember going toe for toe with a Maliken carry and coming out on top(like ~100 hp left but w/e) He also didn't have shrunken head - like I said it was for pubstomping.
Only viable role for nymphora is harcore support. She's excellent when paired with pebbles or gaunt for example, when she can port around the map to kill heroes everytime the CD of her ulti is off, and fuel them with mana.
Provides a good trilane and excellent gank potential, avoiding wards and she brings an added burst to pebbles/gaunt.
Other than that, she could "sort of" carry when zeal stun increased AS, now it's just a stun
:EnhancedMarchers: :TabletOfCommand: :KuldrasSheepstick: :FrostfieldPlate: :FrostwolfsSkull: :ChargedHammer: good carry is good
consider :GeometersBane: :Puzzlebox: :Stormspirit: :Nullstone: over Tablet as they are blue items, and blue items are good. :Steamboots: can work, but make sure you keep them on int, because it guarantees they are blue.
Any hero can be played as a carry if you just let them farm items, but some have skills with a higher payoff the more stacked you are, so it makes sense to use those as carries. On the other hand, some heroes have skills that are valuable even if the hero is underleveled and has no gear, so you'd play them as supports. If you're the best player in a low-skill game and get a good start, carrying with Glacius is nothing; it's possible to have it simply happen as a consequence of getting a ton of extra xp and gold from ganking bads earlygame and just riding that flow.
Now look at Nymphora's skillset and ask yourself, how do these skills help her carry? Why would you pick her for a carry role over, well, pretty much any other hero in game?
She can also gank hard with Ulti and hero like Devourer or Deadwood... or maybe even backdoor hard with Polly.
Last edited by Norst; 06-15-2011 at 06:26 PM.
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She can't carry, but she's a hell of a lot more than just a measly support. I go mid with her a lot, and it works out great. She's a great ganker with a very powerful stun. Everyone always fights me when I call mid, saying it's a waste or a stupid idea, ect. It's hilarious because I will repeatedly save their ass with global tp->heal and/or stun and they eat their words.
Not only does she have really powerful ganking potential, but she can be a beast to lane against. It's funny because I'll often pick her knowing I destroy a lot of the "top tier" mid heroes that would otherwise be a big problem. Nobody expects her to be a real issue and I usually use that to catch them off guard.
Contrary to popular belief, she's not just a walking mana battery. That stun is like, 3.5 seconds at max level. That is a very long time, and it's such a waste not to level it.
Last edited by Delfofthebla; 06-18-2011 at 07:36 AM.