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Thread: Ask A Question (Part 3)
You don't. Plaguerider isn't a jungle hero
Who should pull neutrals in a lane with a melee carry and a ranged support?
It depends how well each player can hold themselves in lane. If the melee has an escape mechanism he'll probably be fine farming in lane, whilst the support goes to pull and they each get solo experience/gold. If the carry can't support himself and is likely to get ganked they should probably go to the woods to pull, but the support has to be ready to defend them. It's quite situational I'm afraid, with no definite answer :/Originally Posted by BullerBaby
the support, whether the heroes are ranged or melee is irrelevant
you pull to deny the creep wave, not to get 2 players farm, so if you dont stack before you pull, or dont double pull (pull it into a 2nd creep camp after finishing the first), youre doing it wrong, and the lane will soon be pushed into the enemy tower, giving the enemy lane control
the point is you keep your carry free farming on his own tower while denying the enemy exp and farm
make sure you try let the neutrals get the last hit on your creeps, not a deny from you, because neutral last hit = 0 exp, deny = reduced exp
Last edited by Jacka; 06-16-2011 at 12:35 PM.
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depends on whether the enemy is close or not. if not close you can start to hit your own creeps to assist the neutrals killing your creeps. this way the wave dies faster and the nuetrals do not lose too much hp and can be used for more pulls.
hey what are sb final items generally
and does it matter if the enemy carry is range or melee
- Ghost Marchers, Runed Axe, then Frostburn or Whispering Helm into Symbol of Rage is the most common build that I see. If you get a Frostburn you can pick up Abyssal Skull after.
Against a ranged carry you'll probably have to deal with being kited, so it's more a change in playstyle than a change in items.
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Hi, is there a way to share items, so my team can use them?
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only a few items can be shared: among them are bottle, runes of blight, health tube, mana tube, mana potion, health potion, wards and some more
Is it still possible to ancient pull the dinosaurs at :07 and :37 after the changes to the map?
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where to you want to pull them and why? oO
Last edited by Wamba; 06-19-2011 at 08:03 AM.
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Sometimes you want to pull ancients into the first wave of lane creeps for early farm or as a form of creep denial etc. As for the question: I don't have an answer. Will have to test it soon.
You can't pull ancients into lanes at all any more. However, you can pull them at x:55 to stack them.
Last edited by Neru; 06-20-2011 at 06:37 AM.
^ just :55.
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Can u deny urself with chalice
whats the best thing to do when ur forced into a loosing lane?
(if ur carry and cant get cs and little exp and if ur support and cant get cs and little exp) assuming the team wouldnt swap
You can't deny yourself with chalice
if you're forced into a losing lane just try to get as much EXP as possible without dying. If things get ugly, try to roam to other lanes to help your 2 other lanes then catch up on farm later (if needed).
If you're a carry losing your lane ask for help, ganks, swaps. Buying a counter ward and stack-pulling can help.
Hard Carries like sand wraith,DL how should I play them?
farm all game and carry a tp so you can help when theres a team fight.
Stay very cautious in early/mid game while you farm your items. As long as it doesn't put you at a disadvantage (i.e no escape mechanism) feel free to use your mana/throw your hatchet to gain last hits if you're in a difficult lane. Abuse those cooldowns. Always stay within the 1000~ area of dying creeps to gain experience, use the courier to bring your mana/health potions rather than leaving lane.
Be vigilant of your map, and get as much farm in as possible until you feel your items are superior to the enemies force, which is when you can engage in teamfights. Of course, depending on the hard carry you could be engaging earlier, Chronos for instance has a strong ultimate for teamfights which doesn't put him in much danger.
Is anyone sitting on the throne of Best 1v1 Hero? (L25, No items, no creeps interferring)
There's puppet who can use his ulti and then puppetshow you into hitting it. But there's also sandwraith who's just ridiculous when you're alone.
Not to mention Corrupted Conduit and ulti on CD.
Is anyone a clear theoretical winner?
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