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Glorify is a wanker but he's good at the game and his guides are spot on.
Sans a few disagreements (Glorify believing he isn't a wanker and dreamex thinking his guides aren't amazing) we all know this to be the case, so why run around in circles posting inane BS regarding it? Zzz.
Just calm down and go outside for a few hours and do something.
I prefer being called master of emotions over wanker. Wanker is such a euro insult it's too dirty for me. Man up and call me a ****er.
You ****er.
Jokes, keep makin the guides man, it's a big help to newbies. Would post some more stuff in response to the flamers but I'm on my phone and cba.
The point is that as an author of multiple premium guides you are held to a higher standard. Glorify deserves all the criticism here because :
A. Called top professional (people who get paid to play a video game, meaning they are 100x better than anyone on this forum) DotA players idiots, baddies, people who use crutches. This is referring to his Sadist / Inhumane Nature remarks in the Soul Reaper guide.
B. Was one of the primary reasons why the Sandbox forum was made, as pretty much every one who has ever gotten their guide premiumed (and pretty much everyone there deserves it) got pissed on when Glorify's incomplete Soul Reaper guide was made premium based on his background rather than what his work, which was at the time INCOMPLETE.
C. As an author of multiple premium guides, he should be slightly more open to suggestions / criticisms rather than telling everyone to STFU just because he's better than the majority of players here. Any legitimate criticisms made about his guides, builds, comments, etc. are met with "I am Glorify, master of emotions a.k.a. I'm a elitist nerdraging player".
D. Acts like an elitist and believes that he and his team are the best team in HoN, when I bet you they couldn't hold a candle to alot of DotA teams that don't even play professionally. Because of this, his attitude comes off as snobbish, elitist, and he pretty much believes he can do whatever the flying **** he wants just because he can.
I don't think Glorify is a bad player, I think he's really good and probably is better than 99.9% of this board. However, I (along with all other posters here) deserve a basic level of respect when we make legitimate and constructive criticism without any aggressive behavior. The only reason why Glorify is on the receiving end of the shitstick (which he could probably care less about, but that's beside the point) is because of how he has responded to these legitimate criticisms in the past.
Being a douche does nothing to affect the quality of a guide. Glorify, apparently a douche from the posts in here, also seems be have a somewhat respected opinion, also derived from this thread.
So you can be good and be a douche. If the guides are good, who cares? It's not like you actually have to interact with him.
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at least he helps people with his guides..
what have you guys done to help the community at all?
Says who?
Sponsored players are always the ones with the most time, and are very rarely the best players of their respective games.A. Called top professional (people who get paid to play a video game, meaning they are 100x better than anyone on this forum) DotA players idiots, baddies, people who use crutches. This is referring to his Sadist / Inhumane Nature remarks in the Soul Reaper guide.
Yet it was still higher quality than the majority of guides on this forumB. Was one of the primary reasons why the Sandbox forum was made, as pretty much every one who has ever gotten their guide premiumed (and pretty much everyone there deserves it) got pissed on when Glorify's incomplete Soul Reaper guide was made premium based on his background rather than what his work, which was at the time INCOMPLETE.
There have hardly been any legitimate, well phrased questions about his guides. It's been all pub players whining about how their pub stomping item build is better/can be used in competitive games (it can't).C. As an author of multiple premium guides, he should be slightly more open to suggestions / criticisms rather than telling everyone to STFU just because he's better than the majority of players here. Any legitimate criticisms made about his guides, builds, comments, etc. are met with "I am Glorify, master of emotions a.k.a. I'm a elitist nerdraging player".
When someone beats his team, then they can talk all the crap they want to him.D. Acts like an elitist and believes that he and his team are the best team in HoN, when I bet you they couldn't hold a candle to alot of DotA teams that don't even play professionally. Because of this, his attitude comes off as snobbish, elitist, and he pretty much believes he can do whatever the flying **** he wants just because he can.
The majority of the criticism is not legitimate. It's just bad players with bad opinions. No one is saying you cannot ask questions, but people come in here with their .5 kdr's and 1300 psr and stand fast that their way is better.I don't think Glorify is a bad player, I think he's really good and probably is better than 99.9% of this board. However, I (along with all other posters here) deserve a basic level of respect when we make legitimate and constructive criticism without any aggressive behavior. The only reason why Glorify is on the receiving end of the shitstick (which he could probably care less about, but that's beside the point) is because of how he has responded to these legitimate criticisms in the past.
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Sponsored players are the players only with the most time? Good luck trying to convince the FPS community Fatal1ty isn't the best FPS shooter of all time. Or Boxer and Nada aren't two of the greatest Starcraft players in the history of that game. Or that FeaR, Merlini, and Vigoss are some of the best DotA players to grace the game. You sir, have already displayed an enormous amount of ignorance with this statement.
First of all, his Soul Reaper guide wasn't even quality let alone complete. It did not deserve premium status. All it showed was a "different and alternative" build with him owning some really bad Valkyrie.
There have hardly been any legitimate criticisms of Glorify's guides? Really? How about why FeaR and other top players in DotA go Sadist, and why Glorify insists that it is a bad skill, a crutch, and that all players who go it are bad?
TinyBlkTears, LegoPirate, me, etc. are all bad players? Yeah, that's a good one. I'm not the best player here (not even close), however I'm certainly nowhere near the worst though.
They are the best of all the other sponsored players. How many people who play video games with real responsibilities like a job or a family can commute around the country to play? You cannot just make a claim they are better than anyone else who plays those games, just that they are better than other sponsored players.
But have you seen the rest of the guides on this forum?First of all, his Soul Reaper guide wasn't even quality let alone complete. It did not deserve premium status. All it showed was a "different and alternative" build with him owning some really bad Valkyrie.
Are they here asking him why he chooses to build it a certain way, or are bad players championing the cause using their names?There have hardly been any legitimate criticisms of Glorify's guides? Really? How about why FeaR and other top players in DotA go Sadist, and why Glorify insists that it is a bad skill, a crutch, and that all players who go it are bad?
From the way you guys post I would guess that you are.TinyBlkTears, LegoPirate, me, etc. are all bad players? Yeah, that's a good one. I'm not the best player here (not even close), however I'm certainly nowhere near the worst though.
1. Fatal1ty is the best FPS player of all time. He has proven that he can be successful at any game, and has on multiple occasions proven himself against many amateur players in challenges.
Nada and Boxer are easily way above any top level competition. They are not the best of just sponsored players, they are the best period. There is a reason why both had 700k US Dollar contracts in recent years, and why they continue to hold records in Starcraft that have and probably won't be broken for a very long time.
FeaR, Merlini, etc. could rape anyone upside down on this forum in DotA, HoN, etc.
All of these people are paid to play their respective games because :
A. They are the best, and have proven that they are the best. No amateur player on the planet can beat Fatal1ty 1 on 1 in Quake 3. I don't care who you are. I guarantee he can beat anyone in any FPS deathmatch game pretty much with his eyes closed.
B. They have the time because they have the determination to do so.
C. They have proven that they are marketable. However, to be marketable in the world of nerdragers, you have to be l337 and have skill. You don't just become a professional gamer based on sheer brute force practice. Otherwise 10000s of WoW addicts would be pro gamers. But they aren't now are they?
D. Your argument is stupid because it's a theoretical one at best with no evidence to support it. Is there some secret DotA grandmaster hiding out there? Or some FPS monster even better than Fatal1ty? Who knows. However, there's more evidence to support that Fatal1ty, Nada, Boxer, Merlini, FeaR, etc. are the best at what they do, because they have results.
Unless you want to start arguing that in sports it's not about who's more talented, who's better, etc., but who has more time.
2. No, the first argument was this. Some peopled asked why Glorify goes aura with Soul Reaper instead of Inhumane Nature. Rather than explaining himself, he just says "it's a bad skill, it's a crutch, people he uses it are baddies." That's when people started stating that FeaR and other top professional players go Sadist/Inhumane Nature.
And yes I've seen his other guides, and some are pretty much cookie cutter run of the mill stuff that any average ordinary DotA player would know.
3. I can guarantee that if you played me in a game of HoN you'd lose really badly. I can garuntee if you played TinyBlkTears in a game you'd probably lose to the point you'd be so embarrassed you'd probably never play the game again.
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I dunno why people complained about the incomplete guide going premium, even incomplete it was the most thorough and informative Soul Reaper guide and was pretty close to completion anyway.
Shut up, TinyBlk is too good to employ strawmen.
And anyways...why is this thread still up? It's just a troll/flame fest. Glorify already started, worked on, answers questions on, got annoyed on, and then canceled the guide he was voted to write. I don't see why the maternal thread is needed anymore.
posting ITT to say that Glorify, dremex, and Trainingsday (tnyblktrs (why the emo name Bill Clinton?)) are all great guys thanks
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