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What is backdooring exactly anyway - there seems to be so many different versions/interpretations of it.. So what is it exactly?
Where did i say anything about his PSR? Gotta love kids who try to be "smart" by assuming stuff and trying to make themselves look cool! His PSR was part of the reason i dont consider him pro, other reasons are his stats like win/loss etc, but thanks for looking like an idiot.Originally Posted by Rubenros
Maybe i am out of it, but lets say scout for a instance, he can start to backdoor in any 2v2 / 3v3 and totally destroy the game. Its disabling one of the other heros to constant watch the base, since cooldown on TP is 60 seconds. Personally backdoor isnt that cool, since it destroys the game depending on what kind of hero u pick.
Again how can you prevent backdoor since its inbuilt in the game, but i think that leagues has banned it because of the fair balance of the game. If ur feeded and constant backdoor, that will make the other team fall totally back and the game is over if u get 5+ kills.
Sorry for my bad grammer im not english.. anyway this is my 2 thoughts
i had a guy complain the other day coz we attacked their base while creeps were attacking our tower.
basically as far as i see it you cant backdoor because buildings are immune until you kill the tower. what you can do is creep skip which basically means you dont wait the minute it takes for your creeps to get to the enemy base. anyone who complains about BD basically wants everything to be as easy as possible, they want to have plenty of warning before some1 attacks there base, rather then using 135 gold
okay so in a 5v5 game 1 team choses the scout and backdoors in the middle of a fight destroying the tower/rax. the other team cant do anything because if they try to teleport most likely they will be stunner or silenced making it impossible to defend against it. i hardly think thats a legit strat
your now fighting 5v4, kill them send some1 back to defend vs scout, the others go forward and rax.
fact is if they have some1 bding they are 1 man down. if you have let scout grind up enuff to be able to kill creeps and buildings before you can tp back i think bding is the least of your worries.
its a legit strat, rarely banned and in my experience results in more losses then wins.
Ah, because calling people kids make you look so much "cooler".
Nevertheless, PsR is a measurement of Wins and losses- the stat that you used to conclude that he was not a pro. If you mean his K/d is bad, you're an idiot as well -how many kills do you think a pro supporter have?
Anyway, "Thanks for looking like an idiot" Etc etc.
In general, backdooring is attacking a building when your creep wave is nowhere near it. The exception being if the building is deniable (less than 100 hp).
Example 1: You are Legion on the bottom lane. Your creeps are fighting the Hellbourne creeps right in front of your tower. You sneak around the creeps and destroy the Hellbourne tower.
I also consider the following to be backdooring:
Example 2: Your team has pushed the middle lane all the way in and taken out both Barracks. The top and bottom lanes are fighting at your base, but your team proceeds to attack the (in base) towers and Barracks for those lanes.
Whether the strategy is legit or not, is up to you. Personally, I avoid doing it for sportsmanship reasons; however, if the other team tries to turn the tide of battle by using it, I am not above responding in kind.
Didn't read much of what you wrote but anyhoo.
Backdooring ruins games, no matter how much they achieve by doing so.
(And for the record, I was standing in the base while the other guys pushed, with me they would have won. Without me we lost. Because every time scout thought there were no-one arnound he came killing barracks (name Berex). I was pyro and managed to hold him back when he was alone.)
Suggestion: with no enemy creeps in the base-area, allies buildings should be invulerable.
fixed
I don't backdoor because it would dishona my famiry and I would have to commit sepekku.
Seriously though, BD should be up to whoever has the power to decide to allow/disallow it. And guess what? S2 is okay with it.
Rofl, next time you try to attack me take some time to think about what you post. Again your reading comprehension amazes me, i wasnt even using his PSR as the main refrence lol..... But once again your focal point of attack is PSR. Look at my stats, i play support alot and i learned on this account never having played dota, i still have a 63% win 1.5 kdr etc when i constantly pub with a bunch of newbs in the 1700+ games against organized teams.
But yea ill say it again... Thanks for looking like an idiot, again. Please just stop posting trying to come at me you wont win and youre just gonna make yourself look worse and worse everytime.
Edit: Also PSR isnt even reflective on just your win/losses. Its reflective on the PSR in the game which gives you the amount of points you gain or lose, then you could be a person who just gets bad luck and loses games cause of feeders etc. I hate the psr system because its very innaccurate ATM with the people cheating etc hencing why its constantly being changed and looked at, not to mention you could just pad them if youre a good player playing EMs or only playing with 3+ friends and never truely "pubing" etc, so saying i base stuff off that is very very funny. Someone who is quoting how pros do it, then they usually consider themselves pro if they dismiss what everyone says like he did hencing why i posted that because nothing is pro about his stats psr etc. So if you wanna focus on the PSR aspect go for it.
Not gonna respond to you again though cause youre not worth my time anymore.
Last edited by Crosis; 09-28-2009 at 11:22 PM.
Sorry... I just wanted to point out something I found really funny... Anyone else notice Crosis has a worse k:d ratio then the guy he made fun of in the first place? What a noob.
P.s. Crosis I suggest you edit your posts so you look less stupid.
kd alone doesnt mean much, i have a kd lower than my brother.....but he plays mainly noob only games, and as such he gets a lot of noob teams and loses a lot, thus his PSR is 200 points below mine.
Its Hammertime
So... let me get this straight... Kdoesn't mean much... PSR doesn't mean much... I'm a ****ing pro then. YOU'RE ALL PROS! PRO PARTY!
*pro dance*
/end retardism
This is getting retarded.
Edit: On topic: Backdooring is legit and easily counter-able. I played nymph today and was easily able to defend base from 3-4 enemies at a time.
Last edited by JamesObscura; 09-29-2009 at 01:06 AM.
And i have a **** load more assists, its not all about K : D dumbass...
Last edited by Crosis; 09-29-2009 at 01:29 AM.
Oh you're right... you have slightly more assists ratio wise... you are more useless but, your team (on average) is better then his.
given his PSR chances are he is also playing against much more skilled opponents. I could have a KD of 2.5 if i wanted to, but its not fun for me to play against noobs all day
You cant use 1 single stat to say how good a player is, you have to combine them all to make a judgement. something that can also cloud a players abilities is what role they tend to play, for me its support, thus i dont get a lot of kills but i do get a fair few assists. I also get less creep kills because i dont farm like people who play play a lot of item dependent heroes. My fav hero is Electrician, i go entire games and only get 40 creep kills, and only have, Steamboots, HotBL and Headress at the end of the game, yet still finish on 3-3-15 (as i did last game).
Is that perfect, no, but I was with a nighthound, who I let get the last hits on heroes and creeps because thats my job. Do I get recognition for that, no, do people see that in my stats, no, but i do it anyway, why because thats my role.
Last edited by Pyrate; 09-29-2009 at 01:36 AM.
i love how the OP just assumed BD is against the rules (dont know how he got to that assumption as there really isnt anything to say it is against the rules) rather then using the search and finding a million threads clearly stating it isnt.
PSR-peen and KD-peen fights are destined for lose. Please get back on topic. Backdooring is here, deal with it and stop crying.
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