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    A REALLY good setup (5v5)!!1

    So me and my friends have been playing HoN for a while now, getting to know the characters and the game (none of us played any dota earlier) and we like the game alot. The thing is that we really cant get a decent lineup up. We just end up picking heroes we already know how works and do our best and end up getting stomped end game. This is what we run at the moment.

    Arachna
    Maliken/Swiftblade/Succubus
    Thunderbringer/Plague Rider
    Pyromancer
    Pebbeles/Predator

    Anyone got a really good lineup and strategy they would like to share with me? We are around 15-1600 psr but we are starting to win more and more games so it will go up with time.

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    Tempest/Magmus/Behemoth/Jereziah/Defiler

    Should be all you need to be capable of winning any game.

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    ^That.
    Madman invulnerable for the entire game. Add bfury and kill everyone during tempest's ult.
    Behemoth is just meh.
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    I changed madman to defiler in my post.

    Defiler provides some of the best DPS in the game and isn't item-dependent.

    Madman has to peak to be good. Defiler just has to stay decently leveled, ult in fights, and then right click enemies to watch them die.

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    Oh, and as a side note, I wouldn't try to base your success off PSR if I were you. I used to be around 1600 2-3 weeks ago. I'm a much better player now, and have been playing well in nearly every game, and I've dropped to the 1400's regardless. It's really all a crapshoot.

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    Thanks. We will try that lineup for a few games We have all tried atleast 1 of the heroes you have listed each. It will tho be very hard for our Arachna player since he swears to Arachna's early game ganking skills. The PSR thing is totally screwed I know. While some of the guys in our clan is sniffin' on 1700 others have 1300 psr and the skill difference is minor (its just that some of the guys play alt more random games than others).

    And one more thing: Who lane's with who? Im guessing Defiler or Tempest goes mid and jera goes with the caster that does not go mid which leaves magmus and behemoth together? Or am I totally off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNick View Post
    Tempest/Magmus/Behemoth/Jereziah/Defiler

    Should be all you need to be capable of winning any game.

    You named 5/6 heroes that are banned in every clan match

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krangry View Post
    You named 5/6 heroes that are banned in every clan match
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    So me and my friends

    What is your point, Krangry?

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    In higher level play teams choose to deny heroes from being picked (denied from both teams). For example, Tempest is such a powerful hero that it will most likely be unpickable.

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    Since this is in the competetive section, it's important for you to not have a pre-planned team, no matter how good the individual heroes are. Competetive games will not normally be played in an ap mode, and more importantly if you get outpicked, your plan went to hell.

    Your very best option is to preset "roles" your team members will play, and have a small pool of heroes each excels at.

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    they're clearly just playing pubs at the moment though, so they'll get the majority of those heroes if they click fast enough.

    arac is one of those heroes that newer players always feel is over powered as she will beat pretty much any other hero in a 1v1.
    The problem is though that when it comes to the team fights she doesn't have that much to offer compared to some of the heroes mentioned above and good players will use homecoming stones to escape her earlier on if she tries to gank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozuu View Post
    What is your point, Krangry?
    My point is that unless you are planning on a 1600+ Ap game where you spam pick the 5 best heroes in the game to pubstomp you will never be able to play this line in a scrim, so why make it your best line?

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    because they're learning the game and if they never played those heroes they'd never understand why they should be banned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krangry View Post
    My point is that unless you are planning on a 1600+ Ap game where you spam pick the 5 best heroes in the game to pubstomp you will never be able to play this line in a scrim, so why make it your best line?
    Very well, but OP is asking for a very good line-up and strategy to win games. If asking for something like that without having the option to play it a lot, as in making ap games, then why would OP ask for it?

    So instead of making comments that are not answering his question, make one that helps him achieving what he wants

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    We got raped by a line-up with Nymph, Soul Reaper, Demented Shaman last night. With all that heal we'd have to kill them like 5 times before they'd actually die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellFire69 View Post
    We got raped by a line-up with Nymph, Soul Reaper, Demented Shaman last night. With all that heal we'd have to kill them like 5 times before they'd actually die!
    I was half asleep, so that doesn't count as us being raped!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstrand View Post
    I was half asleep, so that doesn't count as us being raped!
    I was literally asleep and CVK was playing my pestilence, so yes it does :P <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozuu View Post
    Very well, but OP is asking for a very good line-up and strategy to win games. If asking for something like that without having the option to play it a lot, as in making ap games, then why would OP ask for it?

    So instead of making comments that are not answering his question, make one that helps him achieving what he wants
    Ok, OP in order to win games you have to create/come up with non-conventional lineups. Because once you step up from pubs (which by playing with friends, and improving you will) Clan matches usually have 3 bans per team. Usually leaving the game without its 6 most OP heroes. I.E. The ones listed earlier. So i would get used to playing all of the heroes, and learnign what fits you and your players best, rather then learn one hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krangry View Post
    I was literally asleep and CVK was playing my pestilence, so yes it does :P <3
    It was crazy. We hammered them for the first half of the game then in team fights we just couldn't hurt them with all that AoE heal spam. I'm definitely not going to let a team get those picks again! The fact that you can purge through Shrunken Head didn't help our cause any either. Anyway, it was a fun game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellFire69 View Post
    It was crazy. We hammered them for the first half of the game then in team fights we just couldn't hurt them with all that AoE heal spam. I'm definitely not going to let a team get those picks again! The fact that you can purge through Shrunken Head didn't help our cause any either. Anyway, it was a fun game.
    Ya i was in vent (was 10 mins late) lots of sadness going on lol, ya if played right that nymph/necro combo is hard to beat late game. Wish i coulda played, again soon perhaps.

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