Bring DM (Death Match) to HoN!

[Kleech]

Death Match Mode

The old and classic DM mode from DotA.

If you didn't play DoTA, Death Match mode is a mode when you will received a new hero every time you died (Depending if AR, then randomly receive, if AP, choose again) with all of your items transferred to the new hero at the current level of whatever your hero was.

The game will either end when the Tree of Life or the Sacrificial Shrine is destroyed, or when your team has run out of heroes. A dead hero can never be picked again.


I guess that's everything. It's such an awesome mode. You have to have it a submode, where it's APDM or ARDM.

The Loading Problem:

At the moment, I'm in a discussion in the Mechanics forum over the changes this would create (HoN only loads ten heroes usually, this would expect the game to load all 77.)
I've quoted a few of the points, and if you're curious, you can check them out.

That's why if you notice during the load phase after character select, the game is choppy. More resources are being used to load than to display the game and interact with the user...But forcing a character load mid game would require each machine to either 1) wait for the load, so when a player died, there would be a loading pause, a wait period to load the character that the recently deceased player has chosen to play, or 2) have a trickle load that would load the new character data resources over the duration of the player's death timeout or something similar. Or you could just pay the load cost up front and load all characters, as mentioned above

What happens with practice mode then? You spawn heroes and you can spawn as many as you like. Maybe I"m not thinking about the game in the correct terms, but it seems there the game has to "pre-load" every hero?

No, it just loads the hero when you spawn it. There's a noticeable hiccup when you spawn heroes.

Well now there's a difference between a small hiccup and what you guys are saying would be a drastic delay... o.o

TL;DR: DoTA loads all 77 heroes at once and it doesn't take too long to do so. Therefore, it IS possible. However, HoN has more details, code, and a better engine, therefore it could be much harder for a computer to handle 77 HoN heroes versus 77 DoTA heroes. If only loading a first 10 heroes, then the game would have to spawn heroes as it goes, which should cause lag. However, practice mode only causes a small "jump" at first when spawning a new hero. Would the same not hold true for -DM?

TL;DR x2: Practice mode makes DM seem pretty possible, but there's still questions.

[FullBladder]

Does everyone start back at level 1?

[Kleech]

No, you start at whatever level you died at.

[[JSD]Koiuy]

As well as the items you obtain. ^^

[Zeriercahl]

It's a lot of fun, and let's you experiment with different heroes with different builds.
I hope S2 does fun thigns like this.

[Kleech]

It's an awesome mode, makes games pretty intense.

[Kleech]

Dont want to jinx it but this is on a roll!

[Paynus]

This is a good, quality mode that I miss from my DotA days!

[[RaVe]Limitless`]

I think S2 will never port something from DotA since Valve bought the rights for DotA 2... And that is the reason why Furion is not in HoN.

[[EINC]Kraphty]

Though it is a fun game mode, it'd be hard to impliment into HoN. When you load into DotA, you load all the heroes, where as when you load into your game (after the picking screen) you only load the 10 heroes being played, loading all 77 would take a while.

[Kleech]

I think S2 will never port something from DotA since Valve bought the rights for DotA 2... And that is the reason why Furion is not in HoN.

This is a mode, you could say they got it from Quake or something. Secondly, it was created before Valve bought the rights, so S2 can take it.

Though it is a fun game mode, it'd be hard to impliment into HoN. When you load into DotA, you load all the heroes, where as when you load into your game (after the picking screen) you only load the 10 heroes being played, loading all 77 would take a while.

I had not thought about that, but I would be willing to wait.

[Kleech]

Truly appreciate all the voting guys, this is shooting up! I'm currently discussing the viability of his mode with some people on the Mechanics forum.

[[iSbs]En_Dotter]

Its cool mode, but it think it will have large impact on performance cus game preloads assets of each hero at start. Maybe im talking bollox, so someone correct me if im wrong.

[[jLxG]MrMat`Trick]

That would be awsome

[Kleech]

Its cool mode, but it think it will have large impact on performance cus game preloads assets of each hero at start. Maybe im talking bollox, so someone correct me if im wrong.

I'm discussing the idea behind this currently in Mechanics, check out the discussion if you would like here: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/sh...0#post13369990

[Kaydie]

this was here in beta. and i want it back, it never worked anyway, GIVE ME DEATH MATCH OR GIVE ME DEATH.. oh wait. yeah, +1

[Kleech]

Two votes until popular, would be two populars in two days! CRAZY.

[[TECH]SpaceSavage]

I'm pretty sure back in beta there was a Deathmatch mode, but it got removed

[Kleech]

Indeed it did. I don't understand why though.

[TTDhunter]

maybe because 2 much QQ when some1 died they gotta change their whole item build

anyway voted yes this will go great with my wtf mode suggestion