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    [0.1.47B] Upgradeable Riftshards

    Riftshards & Flayer [Old]
    Flayer
    +75 DMG
    20% chance for 2.4 critical strike.
    Slayer: 2400 Gold
    Rift Shards: 2200 Gold
    Recipe: 1200 Gold (5800 Gold Total)

    Riftshards
    +35 DMG
    10% chance for 1.75 critical strike.
    Punch Dagger: 500 Gold
    Broadsword: 1200 Gold
    Recipe: 500 Gold (2200 Gold Total)
    Riftshards [New]
    Riftshards
    +35/55/75 DMG
    10/15/20% chance for 2.0 critical strike.
    Punch Dagger: 500 Gold
    Punch Dagger: 500 Gold
    Recipe: 1600 Gold (2600 Gold Total) [5800 Gold at Max Upgrade]

    Why?
    Flayer is basically the same thing as Riftshards except better and costlier. If it were a non-recipe item, this would be fine. But, I expect recipe items to be much more fun and creative then this. There is no reason why Riftshards can't just be self-upgradeable. Besides, this game needs more self-upgradeable weapons, and Riftshards sounds totally more awesome than Flayer. (Not to mention this opens up an item slot in the Combatitive Recipe Shop for a new and shiny weapon.)
    Note: To balance out the fact that Riftshards is upgradeable, and can increase its damage output more frequently, it has a higher base cost.
    Last edited by NinjaPants; 09-26-2009 at 11:53 PM.
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    Totally agreed. This way, there also won't be such a "huge" gap between Riftshards and Flayer + upgradeable always seems good to me.

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    T-Up, upgradability would make it epic as you wouldn't have to wait so long to get flayer.
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    The only downside of it is that 3x 820g is easier to farm than 1x 2400g, but it doesn't make that much of a difference.
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    The only downside of it is that 3x 820g is easier to farm than 1x 2400g, but it doesn't make that much of a difference.
    That's actually the reason why I T-upped.

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    Personally I like the idea but I like even more the fact that slayer is used for savage mace and flayer. *Holds vote*, for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSty_ View Post
    Personally I like the idea but I like even more the fact that slayer is used for savage mace and flayer. *Holds vote*, for now.
    They could always construct a new weapon that used a slayer, since now there's a new slot open.
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    Flayer blows. Do it.

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    AGREE!!!
    Love the idea.
    gonna make it a bit easier on agility carries who cant farm for ****

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    Yep, this would be good.
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    I really like this

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    Honestly, I don't see a point besides people wanting a Flayer(With only -1 damage) to be easier to make due to less holding of high amounts of gold by making it upgraded for the same final price. In the end all it really is: People are afraid of filling the inventory or holding large amounts of gold in fear of death. That's part of the game.

    T-down for this. If anything should get upgrades like that, it should only be items with castable effects for greater effects later such as Codex, Necro Book(whatever it's called), etc.

    Quotes from the topic thus far to what the point is, people just want better items to be easier to make without ANY risk at all towards making it:

    Flayer is basically the same thing as Riftshards except better and costlier.

    Totally agreed. This way, there also won't be such a "huge" gap between Riftshards and Flayer + upgradeable always seems good to me.

    T-Up, upgradability would make it epic as you wouldn't have to wait so long to get flayer.

    The only downside of it is that 3x 820g is easier to farm than 1x 2400g, but it doesn't make that much of a difference.

    That's actually the reason why I T-upped.

    AGREE!!!
    Love the idea.
    gonna make it a bit easier on agility carries who cant farm for ****

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    I will post a rework including your thoughts soon. (must head out for now)

    Flayer is the only boring item upgrade in HoN. All other items bring a new effect with them.


    Edit: Made some changes.
    Last edited by NinjaPants; 09-21-2009 at 07:53 AM.
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    Brilliant; T-UP. This is a very likely change to be implemented.

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    Small bump. :]
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    You changed it alot now, and for the better. Ohh fine! T-UP.
    If this is implemented I want to see something new used with slayer!

    EDIT: Did you purposely make the cost for basic riftshard higher? I know its for upgradings sake but not sure how many people would like it.
    Last edited by RUSty_; 09-22-2009 at 03:17 AM.
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    T-Up!

    I love the flayer, but I do find it hard to farm. Great suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSty_ View Post
    EDIT: Did you purposely make the cost for basic riftshard higher? I know its for upgradings sake but not sure how many people would like it.
    If you look at the first post again, you'll see that he wrote the following:

    To balance out the fact that Riftshards is upgradeable, and can increase its damage output more frequently, it has a higher base cost.

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  20. #20
    T-up. I always had a hardon for Riftshards and Flayer, but that doesn't mean I don't know how worthless they are in any kind of decent game. This would both make Riftshards a more viable buy and remove the absolutely boring upgrade that is Flayer. Please god implement this.
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