Banlist Sharing and Clipboard

[Kleech]

Banlist is great and all, but it's extremely lacking for something that could actually grow to be useful to many players.

Okay, then what SHOULD we see?

1. Banlist Clipboard
   
   • If a player joins your game on your banlist, it should be put onto your clipboard so you can easily CTRL+V to let everyone know about your ban.
   • This is more a matter of convenience, the fact you have to retype your ban on a player is simply silly, and the time could be better spent figuring out your pick.
   
   
2. Banlist Share
   
   • The command /banlist addlist _____ should add all bans by any friend you choose to be included in your games.
   • If someone ruined my game, I'd like my friends to know as well so they can avoid them as well. "Originally banned by Kleech" could be put at the end of their lists when appearing in your game.
   
   
3. Banlist Count
   
   • The command /banlist count should give a one line response of how many bans you currently have.
   • Simple addition for those curious, does no harm if you don't care. Should be very easy to code.
   
   
4. Goodlist
   
   • A separate list for good players.
   • This was an idea that never took storm in Banlist, but the idea was if there is a Banlist for bad players, people should have the ability to have a Goodlist for good players.
   • "Good" is not a definition of skill, but rather a definition of cooperation, team play, knowledge, strategy, support, calm minded... Any way that player wish to acknowledge them.
   • There are many people I have enjoyed playing with, but not enough so to add them to my friend's list. This would resolve crisis like this.
     
   
   
5. Actually Account For Banlist in MM/Public Games
   
   • I just included this because if people see threads about Banlist they expect this to be the complaint. I'm not totally pushing for this because so many other people are (see LINK) but if I'm going to talk about all of Banlist's problems, this is one of them.
   
   

Extra
Someone asked what would happen if two banned people joined your game at once for the clipboard. You would only be able to copy the last joiner, and I just took a cap because I doubt many people have ever seen two banned people join their game... McMayo would have then been copied.

Updates:
3/28
Added Goodlist suggestion and Banlist Count.

3/25
Removed Banlist View, either they just added or never notice but there is in fact a /banlist list that shows your banlist. The formatting is awful though.

[TTDhunter]

what happens if 2 banned players join the same game for your 1st idea?

[Kleech]

Well, what happens when two banned players join your game currently? I can test it (I'll "ban" two of my friends) but I assume the game arbitrarily dictates which ban gets posted first, and the last one to get posted would be the one on the clipboard.

[Kleech]

Bump, responded to previous poster.

[Kleech]

I guess there was already a /banlist list command, so removed that from suggestion.

[Kleech]

Updated.

[Kleech]

Bump.

[[GcGc]Phase1Skeith]

Stop bumping this nonesense.

If you ban a player - that's your personal entertainment.
RAP handels griefing and punishment for similar matters, it's not in your hand to punish people by forever auto-presenting them to everyone as "those people on my banlist".

Feel free to tell everyone you banned them and see if they care.

Many people (also on my list) just had VERY bad days or are simply low tier and I never wanna see them again. However that doesn't mean I have any right revoke their possibility of playing this game like everyone else.

Same for Banlist share. It's seriously a good thing tehy are personallized.
Imagine a total n00b going 0 wins 14 loses, being banlistet by ~30 people for epic suckage; shared to about 900 more people through the friend list spread; Just because he's new to the game?

And don't go telling me people on these lists always deserve being on it, cause they don't.

And a "Goodplayer" list? That sounds entirely useless, just befriend those people if you think they're that good and that's you only criteria for people.

THE ONLY point I agree on is that people who are on your banlist should not pop up in your team on MM, cause that's just really stupid. DOn't see any problem with having them in your opponents team.

[Kleech]

RARARRAAGEEE.

But I shall respond to your objections one by one.

Stop bumping this nonesense.

If you ban a player - that's your personal entertainment.
RAP handels griefing and punishment for similar matters, it's not in your hand to punish people by forever auto-presenting them to everyone as "those people on my banlist".

Feel free to tell everyone you banned them and see if they care.

1) You don't have to copy + paste if you do not wish. You can easily remove people from your banlist, so, if they behave well in another game, I see no reason not to remove them. I wouldn't call saying, "Hey, for a warning, don't get blue too mad, he's destroyed all his items in my game once." a "punishment." I think it'd be more of a punishment not letting the other team know.

Many people (also on my list) just had VERY bad days or are simply low tier and I never wanna see them again. However that doesn't mean I have any right revoke their possibility of playing this game like everyone else.

2) I'm actually quite confused on what in the world you are talking about here. No one is "revoking their possibility of playing this game." I could respond more if I had any idea what you were talking about. But, the only thing I can reasonably respond to this is if you never want to see them again, why would I?

Same for Banlist share. It's seriously a good thing tehy are personallized.
Imagine a total n00b going 0 wins 14 loses, being banlistet by ~30 people for epic suckage; shared to about 900 more people through the friend list spread; Just because he's new to the game?

3) I never said Banlist is automatically spread through the friend's lists. ON the contrary, you would have to personally add their list to your own, and I don't see many people actually sharing their lists. I surely wouldn't add my friend's banlists, mostly because they don't use it! But I would love to share other people who have nicely made banlists. And to each their own. You don't have to listen to your banlist or your friend's.

And don't go telling me people on these lists always deserve being on it, cause they don't.

4) So people who are on RAP don't deserve to be on it? And if there is a list with bans that people don't deserve to be on, I can bet anything it won't be that well shared.

And a "Goodplayer" list? That sounds entirely useless, just befriend those people if you think they're that good and that's you only criteria for people.

Good team player, good support, good carry... I keep my friends list to people I've been playing with for years, and years only. So, no, that would not work.


Hope to receive some well thought responses.

[Kleech]

Bump. Strange, most people with heart avatars hate my suggestions. o.O

[Kleech]

Bump.

[Kleech]

Up we go.

[Kleech]

Bump. Sadly it seems he doesn't want to have a discussion. Pity.

[KeY533]

+1
But at the moment, the most player play MM and the Banlist lost his use. In Public games you could ask for a kick or you just could've left the game. But if you are with one in the same game who is in your banlist its already to late to do something against the banned player.

[Kleech]

True, but that could change.

[Kleech]

^4char.

[Kleech]

dear dear baNLIST

[Paynus]

I agree with all of your points but none more strongly than the fact that banlist should work for Match Making. S2 has been pushing MM as the main style of play since the 2.0 update and I'm completely fine with that. However, the banlist function is completely useless for MM at the moment and I think that needs to change. As you said, if someone is on your banlist you should not be put into a MM game with them.

As for adding buddies' banlists, I think this is a good idea as well. If I know my friends have similar banning criteria to me, why wouldn't I want their banlists?

And the goodlist, which I think many people are unaware of is also a good idea, although I think this is the lowest on the priority list. I have played with and against people that I wish I could have added to the goodlist, just to let me know they are a good overall person/player.

[[TBH]Umaru]

Everything is cool, but banlist for MM is NECESSARY we NEED THAT!!

[samst]

I do not want people on my banlist to be in the same game as I, not even on the enemy team. Recently played against people who were absurdly rude from the start and while ignore function might work well, I still don't want to be near such people.

This is the only feature I truly miss at top of my head.