HoN Werewolf V2 - Game Over

[[S2]Vahn]

Replacement player
Effective immediately Gravenimage` is being replaced by Lucian01

[KARTlK]

HB gotta be andrex ryper and ryoki.

Just gotta be guise. Idk about the last one though.

Anyway stop voting for yourself yukari and lets end this day with a no lynch.

[[E]Evil_Andrex]

Is there a reason I appear HB? Yukari convinced me not to be passive and hopes to encourage all of us to not waste day one.

[[CARP]Bwomp]

I think i figured out what Yukari wants form us.

My vote stays on Ryper7

My suggestion for you all is: Either choose you own target, or No Lynch. But i don't want Yukari to be lynched now. At day 2 or 3 we can lynch him. I would love that, yes. but not know.

I would even ask for Jereziah (if anyone can hear me ) to protect him this night.

i hope so much that i'm correct... -.-

[[E]Evil_Andrex]

How long does it take for a person to be declared as not playing and is getting replaced?

[[S2]Vahn]

24 hours for me to send them a message, they have 24 to respond. If they don't respond then between 0 - 24 hopefully to get someone to replace them.

[KARTlK]

Yukari seems so innocent to me. At least for now. I fully recognize that I might change my mind later about his guiltyness or innocentness, but I KNOW right now that there is not nearly enough reason to lynch him.

There aren't any strong hellbourne power roles. They're all counter roles. A no lynch today is safe.

I mean if day one goes on for another 10 pages then yeah let's lynch someone but at this point you can't tell if someone is HB enough to kill them.

One death tonight (or maybe no death from jereziah saving someone) will tell us a lot about who's hb or not. Either they use reverse psychology or they will kill the people most on track. HB never goes for a sapling like me, bobble, nomes, or anyone else who talks a lot because they know jereziah is probably shielding one of us. And when HB kills someone, either they were on track or they weren't.

It seems like that's obvious but it puts you on track a lot better when you know what the HB are thinking.

[[E]Evil_Andrex]

Why me though?

[[H3LP]Lucian01]

Hey guys. As you can probably tell my sig I'm a sapling. I find the circumstance my arrival to ironic in the sense saplings are constantly being pumped out to replace each-other in the land of newerth. But such is life for the poor sapling.

So on to business, I think it would be the in the village's best interest to lynch Yukari. He's obviously a trouble maker, and more than likely a hellbourne asset.

Vote: Yukari

[[RiA]FlameStick]

Sorry guys i had some issues lately and didnt even notice this started.

Well i got 9 pages to read trough

[Nolifer]

Vote Yukari Unvote:No-Lynch

It may be best to just start off with a lynch to get this game rolling.

[[CARP]Bwomp]

yes. but imo not Yukari.

MY target of choice is still Ryper, but i dont think that Yukari should be lynched NOW

ps: i own a dog.

as i stated before:
Lynch him at day 2 or 3!!!
there i would appreciate it and i guess he as well!
but we SHOULD not lynch him now straightaway!

[[E]Evil_Andrex]

Switch vote
Vote Yukari
Flamestick

[[PACT]Javu]

HB gotta be andrex ryper and ryoki.

Just gotta be guise. Idk about the last one though.

Anyway stop voting for yourself yukari and lets end this day with a no lynch.

Any reason why you suspect those three? Any evidence?


I'm not too sure what to think of Yukari at the moment. His play style is confusing, but he comes off as legion. His self vote wasn't like a lot of hellbourne when they self vote themselves. When most hb self vote themselves they do it out of desperation when they are being bandwagoned. However, Yukari wasn't in any immediate danger. He did it out of confidence it seems, rather than desperation. I'm willing to let him live for now. I doubt he'll be round much longer anyway. If he's legion he's a prime target for hb, so he'll probably be killed in the next few nights. If he's hellbourne then we will probably end up lynching him in the next couple of days anyway, depending on how he plays.

Hey guys. As you can probably tell my sig I'm a sapling. I find the circumstance my arrival to ironic in the sense saplings are constantly being pumped out to replace each-other in the land of newerth. But such is life for the poor sapling.

So on to business, I think it would be the in the village's best interest to lynch Yukari. He's obviously a trouble maker, and more than likely a hellbourne asset.

Vote: Yukari

What is with all the people claiming sapling? Why are you so desperate to dodge attention?

Vote: Lucian01

Yukari is such a convenient vote for a hellbourne who just replaced someone. His self vote drew a lot of attention to himself and got him a few votes, so hellbourne can easily put a vote on him as well and fit in to the crowd. Replacing someone, especially hellbourne, means that you will be looking to post something to divert attention from yourself because if you afk/lurk you will look suspicious, especially just after replacing someone, so its so easy to come in and vote Yukari. His play style even means that you don't have to put a lot of analysis or reasoning in to your vote, you can essentially not say anything and vote him and it will appear fine.

Sorry for the trouble but unforutnetly i will cannot participate in this game due to some IRL problems.

If warchamp7 wants he can replace me

One more thing, just a thought though. Gravens only post before being replaced was to say that he can't participate due to IRL problems. As a simple sapling you can put very minimal effort and attention in to this game if you want. As a hellbourne this game requires a lot of attention. Even with IRL problems Graven could still participate enough as a sapling to get by

[KARTlK]

Javu is probably right. But still unvote Yukari wtf.

Damn

Anyway the whole "Yukari is trouble maker" is enough for me to vote Lucian, since you guys wont end the day on a no lynch.
Vote: Lucian01

[[CARP]Bwomp]

@Javu:

your arguments are quite convincing.

but: if u had focused out what Lucian01 was thinking by voting Yukari, i hope that you can also figure out what Yukari was thinking by at FIRST nominating himself, and then withdrawing it. It was pretty obvious (for me) that he didnt intend to let the vote remain on himself.
@Yukari: You ARE blacksmith and i know it... or!?
And as always my suggestion is to NOT vote Yukari now, but at the 2nd / 3rd day. I am SURE that he will again nominate himself if he knows more.

[Fetyukov]

I managed to read what Yukari said before he edited it, and it's enough to convince me he's clear. I'm going to agree with bwomp on this.

vote: lucian01

[[Toho]Yukari]

Ah, good to see some development while I was asleep.
Unvote: Chuth
Vote: Lucian01

Incoming big post

[[Toho]Yukari]

@Javu:

your arguments are quite convincing.

but: if u had focused out what Lucian01 was thinking by voting Yukari, i hope that you can also figure out what Yukari was thinking by at FIRST nominating himself, and then withdrawing it. It was pretty obvious (for me) that he didnt intend to let the vote remain on himself.
And as always my suggestion is to NOT vote Yukari now, but at the 2nd / 3rd day. I am SURE that he will again nominate himself if he knows more.

Heh, Bwomp I think you understood my intentions perfectly. Allow me explain.
Prior to my self-lynch, I have already had 4 votes on me. With my own, that makes 5. Incidentally, there are 5 hellbourne in the game. Assuming that 1 or 2 has voted for me already (I doubt it, 1 at best from my analysis,) if this incident mirrors what happened in game 1 day 1, then eventually people would bandwagon me. The first person who bandwagons should be a newb, as newbs at these type of games tend to do that. Sure enough, Evil_Andrex took the bait.

If bandwagoning starts, the HB would inevitably see this as an opportunity to get rid of me. Thus jump on the bandwagon when they think that doing so wouldn't reveal themselves. And again, I personally like to think by having my team win, I would win regardless if I am alive or dead. If by my death we can find 1, or 2 HB, then it is well worth it. However, after Andrex unvoted me, my plan became uncertain. Thus I revoked the vote on myself. However, I made a mistake. I did not refresh the page and did not see Ryper's post. Thus I had to edit my post, and after accidentally breaking a rule, reveal that I unvoted myself and revoted myself. The plan was wobbly at this point, as I fear that the HB found my intentions. I went to sleep about here.

When I woke up, I saw more bandwagons, and a replacement effective immediately, who jumped on the bandwagon without hesitation. This fits most of the criteria for my original plan, thus I am voting Luci.

Now that I revealed my thoughts, mind that this will never have any effect again. (Or would it...?) My next self lynch will probably have a different intention :3

Oh; yes.

P.S. I'll probably post another finding later today.

[[TECH]YawningAngel]

I still say you're an aggressive Hellbourne player who overextended and is trying to recover the situation so as to avoid an early lynch. Getting yourself bandwagoned could be for any number of reasons, but I don't see how it could ever be in the interest of the Legion. Thus I assume this is in fact an elaborate double-bluff: draw attention to yourself (something no HB would ever willingly do this early) and then claim later that you did it to try to out HB, as it's in their interests to Bandwagon you. However, if you're Hellbourne, you can safely do this KNOWING that you won't get bandwagoned for an early lynch, and instead divert suspicion from you and your compatriots. This leads me to believe you're just trying some new tactic as HB.