Hey everyone. I realize that this might be an odd place to ask, but does anyone here live in Sweden, or have significant connections (friends/family) to Swedes? I have a very strong interest in at least visiting Sweden, and possibly moving there entirely in the near future (~a year at the very most). I currently live in the US (Massachusetts, on the east coast), but my desire to leave has been getting stronger and stronger over the past 2 years. I'll write a bit about my reasons below for those who are interested; but if anyone can help, please send me a PM. Absolutely nothing is set in stone yet, but I want to at least start talking to people and trading some names; and I know HoN has a lot of EU players.
So, my reasons. Before anyone asks: no, they aren't political in the slightest. They're entirely about my own concerns with my life; and as such, this will be very personal compared to what OT is used to. I'll try to be as concise as possible.
Over the past few years, I've become much more reflective and cognizant of the course my life is taking; and I slowly began realizing that I couldn't see a point in anything I was doing. I was in college at the time, and everything I was doing there just seemed like a dead end; a road to getting a degree, which would lead to a decent job, which would lead to... what? A comfortable, safe life? I didn't see a point in wasting my time doing that, but I didn't know what else to do. After a few months of being generally unhappy and disinterested, I finally decided to do the only thing I knew how to do; change something. So I left school, came back home, and started working in a small privately-owned piano maintenance workshop. For a while, I thought it might be enough. I was working with my hands and learning stuff every day, and it was really cool to work in a workshop with just myself and my boss (who is a really awesome guy). I hadn't done any metalworking or carpentry before, so it was a huge learning experience. I've been working there for about a year now, and I'm again realizing that it just isn't fulfilling me as a person. Again, I'm having trouble seeing the point. If I stay here doing this, then I think I'll just end up feeling like I wasted another year of my life; and I'm starting to think it's because I just can't find much in common with the people around me. So I'm going to try something crazy.
So why Sweden? Really, it's a bit arbitrary. A lot of my favorite things have come out of there, and I've basically never seen anything bad about the place. I've also never been there before despite having been all around Europe before, so it can be a fresh start. I'm not anywhere near naive enough to think that it will be a utopia where all my problems will go away (and many Swedes I've talked to in the past have had a lot of bad things to say about the country as a whole... grass is always greener, etc.). Still, the people there always seem awesome whenever I catch a brief glimpse of them; not afraid to be different, in tune with themselves, and most importantly smart without being loud about it. It's either the most devious marketing plot ever conceived or it's a hidden gem where I might find something I value. Either way, it's something I have to explore. A strong plus is that there seem to be a lot of decent English speakers there.
Please know that I am 100% serious about this. These aren't just some random words you're reading on the internet; a real person is sitting here and writing this. I don't want to hear judgments or opinions as they won't change my thoughts; please hold back if that's all you have to say. If you are kind and brave enough to help some random guy from the US do something he has no idea how to do, please let me know. Even if you can't help in a more serious way, even having someone I can talk to would be helpful; as of now, I basically only know people (as in, actually know people) from the US and Austria/Switzerland. These are scary and uncharted waters I'm considering diving into. Felt good to write this.
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i hope you're on leave of absence :\
anyway, you should look into this:
it is a network of people that have a membership to this site, where people rate their travels to another country and stay free of charge in one of the members' homes... the catch is you have to host a visitor at some point yourself back home. anyway, it's an option i thought you might be interested in
That's awesome dude, that you want to move here Eventho sweden wouldnt been my first choice if I wasnt living here already, but as u said
* grass is always gree..*
but with any other countries, we have pro's and con's I guess:P but if u decide to move here, good for you !
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Originally Posted by senzation54
Thanks for the link Vex. I've never heard of it before, but there are even 2 couch surfers (one of whom I know!) in my own tiny little nowhere hometown. I'll look into it a bit more soon.
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Don't go there. It's disappointment waiting to happen. Scandinavia is perhaps the most boring place on earth along with Salt Lake City. The only things that are funny there is sex, drinking and playing video games. I agree it's cool to do all these activities in Sweden but it isn't worth it.
Come to Berlin you'll see almost as many Scandinavians and the lifestyle is way more interesting. Many possibilities (and after speaking with quite a lot of those guys more than in Sweden) are open and you could find yourself a home sweet home.
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"the only funny things here are sex, drinking and playing video games too..."
Funny enough, he doesn't mention anything else to prove his point.
Well, I live in Sweden and I know it's a tad weird country when it comes to the native swedes and their general personality.
Lots of people are applying this law subcinciously because they've grown up with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law
Again, it might be because I am from Sweden already that I only see the bad stuff, but I wouldn't feel good if I atleast didn't warn you already.
Swedes are usually very much afraid of conflicts, they never speak up when it comes to true opinions. Sometimes because of the Jante Law, sometimes because you're pretty much frowned upon if you're not normal or "PK" (which translates to politically correct I s'pose).
Even if you, for example, have the opinion that the immigration should be reduced. You'll be stared at and people will claim you're a Nazi, Racist w/e even though you didn't even mention anything in those ways.
Many Swedes believes what the media says all the time, while most of it is often true to some extent, but there's also complete bullshit it the papers sometimes.
For example at the university I'm studying at there's a committee(do mind my poor spelling) that arranges an event for the whole city and it's sort of a parade kinda thing. Anyhow, the local papers claimed that this committee forced the women members of it to draw penises in the parade-commercials and that women would never do such a thing as it's considered male-jokes.
This was ofcourse complete garbage and was proven wrong by many. But we still heard about it from people afterwards.. "Those guys at that university forces women to do stuff they don't want.."
Which leads us to the other problem, ULTRA-feminism. That's right, not normal feminism where people want to just live by the same standards and recieve a salary based on performance rather than gender. ULTRA-feminism is where they want to go as far as to change some of the signs in traffic because there's more males on the signs than females. Which leads to the PK thing again, if you object to this nonsense you're frowned upon and seen as a cave-man.
Anyways.. There's loots of good stuff about Sweden too, but I guessed you're read it all already so I thought I'd just bring some of the bad stuff to light too. While there's alot of people failing when it comes to reasoning, there's a good bunch of us staying sane too. People who can see past the media indoctrination and other stuff.
The people sitting in the Swedish version of the Parlament are by the ways also
50% morons that are still there because they are seen as "experienced".
30% reasonable politicians (as in, they do their job well even though I personally might not agree with them)
20% randoms. More than half of them are absent when they have meetings and yeah.. Sorry I forgot you didn't wanna hear about the politics.
Most Swedes are friendly however, shy and the girls are alright as far as I know. If you find the right kind of people in Sweden you'll have a great time I'm sure. That is, the right kind for you.. the ones you feel you fit well together with.
There's good stuff too, I was just surprised that you picked Sweden of all places, but I'm kind of happy anyways that you wanna see Sweden, if you go here I'd love to hear about your experience, perhaps I'm so blind because I've lived here for ages that I only see the bad stuff. =)
I hope you have a good time whatever you decide to do! Feel free to ask me anything about Sweden, be it PM-wise or in this thread. Now I'm off to finish a mechatronics project (you guessed it, I'm a nerd-geek). I'll check this thread again when I get home again. =)
Stats are like women in bikinis, they are interesting to look at however they don't show you everything.
What do you expect to change when you get to Sweden? Besides the climate.
Visit me in Denmark. We'll be stronk pals, and I'll teach you how to live long.
Seriously, though, don't go to Sweden. I have nothing against Sweden, but from a logical
perspective, Denmark is a lot better. Not only because we have absolutely zero 'Acts of God',
but because our beer is the best you will ever get. And I live here, so we can do stuff together.
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October 27th, 2011
Not to de-rail the thread, but can anyone comment about the availability of teaching jobs in the Scandinavian countries? I'll be graduating soon and would like to teach abroad. I've talked to several people who have taught abroad and talked to ESL recruiters, but have yet to run into anyone that has taught in a Scandinavian country.