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The martial "sphere" is like, military matters. I agree with you that saying it how he did makes him sound like a ponce who isn't half as smart as he is acting. I disagree with you that MMA in a sphere cage would be cool, because I hate the sport and how it's killed boxing, but that's just my preference.Originally Posted by RocketMan05
I hate to say such harsh things in a thread about being nice but this is pure sheep ****. To imply that giving up does not affect the outcome of a game is just incorrect.Your morale has never lost you a single match - bad play lost every one of them because morale doesn't control your hero or create tactical effects on the battlespace.
It's an interesting discussion.A group's morale is broken when its desire to win is no longer strong enough to overcome the hardships involved in winning. Confidence, enthusiasm, etc are not strong factors in building morale - these are brittle emotions which are easily degraded by enemy action, and loyalty could scarcely be less relevant to a group of 5 strangers. Far more important factors are personal discipline, controlled aggression and rational assessment of the game state. Additionally, mistaking morale for happiness or any kind of positive emotion is a complete misnomer - very unhappy units can have high morale.
Oh. Here i thought morale was emotion related, cos if you felt bad you cant be bothered. If its not emotion, its not in the brain.
I think a lot of it has to do with your estimate on how difficult it's going to be to pull a win out of it, it's subject to emotional bias somewhat and can trigger a "can't be arsed" response making you just go through the motions instead of really trying.
Most players (myself included) don't come into every game with a "will give it 110% effort to win no matter what happens" attitude that is maintained throughout the match. If it seems like it's going to be extraordinarily hard and you get little cooperation from your team, you may just give up. Both of these factors are based entirely on your own subjective view of the situation.
On the other hand, it's hard to assess how much effect it really has, since your morale usually breaks in situations where your chance to win really is low in the first place - even if you DO give it your best. I am assuming here that you do not snap simply because of a kill stealing nighthound/player X didn't buy a ward/player Y picked scout, or other such things.
I think "tilt" such as when on a loss streak and already pissed because of things that happened in earlier matches, potentially has worse effect than what happens in the specific game. Most players can handle getting soundly beat early in a particular game and adjust to the situation, staying somewhat level headed. It's more difficult when it happens in during a long losing streak.
It's hard to quantify the effect of this though. You'd never know if you could actually win a game if you did try a little harder and kept your cool in that particular game. You can only speculate about it.
"Proclamation was made, in the King's Name, for all Persons to keep Silence" - House of Lords Journal, Volume 20, 24 June 1717
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THis is exactly why I am stuck in 1500-1600 because my morale is ****.
Like... on both my accounts I got like between 2.0 and 3.0 KDR with 2.0 wards per game average, yet I can't get higher, morale issue.
- Be Polite!
Lets take a Scenario. In both cases you're playing mid as hag, your bottom lane really needs a gank, in instance one, one player says to you. "Mid is noob, no ganks we lose." In all honesty, what that person is trying to express is "hey we really need a gank down here to even the odds up a bit, can you please come down?" Which one of those two Dialogues would you rather receive as the mid hag? Even I know when someone would rather complain, cry, and belittle me, I'm not going to be very interested in helping them too soon, whether their right or not. Politeness is an excellent way to keep down frustration, and to keep the temperature cool on that flame war that could erupt at any genocide, or bad play. Being polite can also mean being supportive, if someone comes down to gank for you, or maybe just dies in lane, rather then dropping a "...wtf", or "gg feed" how about "nice try" or "ahhh so close :\" Being polite and supportive will show your teammates not only that you're not a egotistical ball of douche, but that you're interested in their play and success as well.
This is what i think hon players need to aware themselves of the most.
fantastic post overall though
thank you very much!
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I like giving more a tone of warning... "gay lane, enemies having an easy time, help kill or regret it later"
You don't entirely want to direct it at mid either, sometimes it's better for someone from the other sidelane to port down
very true.
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Great Thread!
And remember, never call KS on a teammate, no matter how blatant, just say GJ and pretend you mean it!
This is a perfect example. The fact is, you can't go back in time and get the kill, so why give someone a hard time about it. Yes, there is certainly plenty of times where it is frustrating..but just look at the grand scheme rather then OMFGZZZ I WANTED THAT KILL WTF>
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Wow. Great thread. How have I never found this?
Thanks for the bump!
no problem, thanks
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I extremely agree with the being polite aspect of your thread. Very well done thread OhUknow.
good stuff,seriously mate!
...but point two it's impossible at low brackets,i have been playing on "4 men carry" team since a week now,and i say 4 and not five because i am always the "noob\you suck\wtf are u picking" guy who always pick tank/support...truth is that if you try to say to your people "please make organized team| we need (whatever) | don't go carry everyone please" they wil just pour rage upon you from the picking phase because..hey,they're pro players with noob team!
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Ehhh... Usually your team wont complain if your playing well and if you have already lost the game you dont have to care about the flame. Also when you do a mistake dont start to ***** about it when someone says pretty rudely just dont do it again... Usually the fight start when someone points another players mistake and the who did the mistake cant accept it and start to whine about it back.
maybe you should read the OP post better,because it clearly explain that people ARE whining even if you are playing decently,if you are 10/0/0 actually you might be playing worst than someone who's 3/3/10,K : D ratio does not make you a good player but 95% of the HoN population just don't get it
When did I say playing good=huge kd?
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