(Map) Forests of Caldavar WTF Mode

[[TGCH]_RaZieL_]

Not sure how many people think this would be fun, i used to enjoy it in dota
http://dream.heroesofnewerth.com/map/_RaZieL_/Wtf Mode Caldavar

Basically, no cooldowns and infinite mana on the caldavar map

and heres a mediafire link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a13xjdojeluf5ra

[Oloko]

Wasn't WTF mode only no cooldown? I didn't play it that much, but I think you had mana cost on spells. I guess this will make it even more "WTF".

I looked at the map and it seems you missed some things.
One thing I would recommend you to do is to remove unnecessary files from the map. You should only need the following files:

legion_base.entity
hellbourne_base.entity
state_wtfmodeh.entity OR state_wtfmodel.entity

You only need one state since it has the same effect, it doesn't need to be in the same folder as your ability. You might also want to remove the "duration" attribute on the aura since it's not used.

There is also an issue with some spells where they don't work with cooldown but with charges and timers. Spells like Chipper's rocket still has a "cooldown" even with the aura.

[[TGCH]_RaZieL_]

Wasn't WTF mode only no cooldown? I didn't play it that much, but I think you had mana cost on spells. I guess this will make it even more "WTF".

I looked at the map and it seems you missed some things.
One thing I would recommend you to do is to remove unnecessary files from the map. You should only need the following files:

legion_base.entity
hellbourne_base.entity
state_wtfmodeh.entity OR state_wtfmodel.entity

You only need one state since it has the same effect, it doesn't need to be in the same folder as your ability. You might also want to remove the "duration" attribute on the aura since it's not used.

There is also an issue with some spells where they don't work with cooldown but with charges and timers. Spells like Chipper's rocket still has a "cooldown" even with the aura.

thanks for the input, im looking into something for the charges and timers and im going to remove those files, this was just a 5min rough draft to see if people were interested may have to edit those abilities

EDIT: i might even go as far as to edit all the spells,maybe balance it and so on, but it depends on interest
EDIT2: mana was replenished on spellcast in dota

[Dunderklump1]

EDIT2: mana was replenished on spellcast in dota

yea, probably true, because I remember that if you got manadrained to below the ammount of mana you needed for a skill, you couldnt use it.

[Sheapy]

You could only Ball Lightning as far as your mana pool allowed you to (Unless you spammed Static Remnant which replenished your mana).

[Dicemaster]

didnt wtf include free spellchoice? u got some startpoints which could be used to buy spells? (ofc ultimates costs so much it can only taken once)

[[SGP]LonJAXsoN]

didnt wtf include free spellchoice? u got some startpoints which could be used to buy spells? (ofc ultimates costs so much it can only taken once)

That was omg mode...

[[TGCH]_RaZieL_]

yea, probably true, because I remember that if you got manadrained to below the ammount of mana you needed for a skill, you couldnt use it.

Whats the general opinion on this, should i make it restore mana on spellcast or keep it at the regen method?

[scott3h]

lol legionnaire would be epic. taunt taunt taunt taunt taunt taunt taunt

[[4DC]Ultimabasher]

lol legionnaire would be epic. taunt taunt taunt taunt taunt taunt taunt

Yeah rofl, think about dw, 950 physical dmg nuke with no cd :P
And what about Black, multicast multicast multicast :P

[tchackie]

1. Pick Thunderbringer
2. Get to lvl 6
3. Spam R

[[SGP]LonJAXsoN]

Refill on spellcast. That's how it is in DotA. I was a regular wtf mode player.

1. Pick Thunderbringer
2. Get to lvl 6
3. Spam R

That's why you play banning pick or remove all globals. Otherwise, I would have a shrunken long before he reached 6... probably within 2 minutes.

[Pness]

Wouldnt this be stupid? Just be thunderbringer and stay in pool and 24/7 ult.

[[4DC]Ultimabasher]

Or be ophelia and keep healing the team, win win win.

Or be chronos, bubble all heroes and keep attacking towers, keep refreshing bubble.

I believe atleast giving a minor cd on spells like 2 secs is viable, 10 secs for ult, or its doctor repulsor coming right from spawn to instagibb you

[Nemesis]

please gief this mode. I loved it in dota, its freaking awesome, unlimited thunder ulties

[[NOPE]Raven_Corp]

I remember the sweet lag Shivas guard caused from spamming.

[OrehRuoy]

I did this mode but went about it differently. Im thinking of ways to balance a mode thats not meant to be balanced. At least take away some heroes abilities to make it unplayable as mentioned.... Accursed that can not die... global ults constantly so on.

I was thinking making normal spells either keep their mana costs or go to 1 or 0. Then ults get raised real high either all the same or depending on how powerful they are. Say tb ult you can do a few times before your out of mana and have to go to well. Some skills will not be useful at all either so maybe I will give them some more power to balance it out. I will stop though if no one has any interest.

[Hax]

Lvl 1 pharaoh > all. Just sayin.

[[JoR]Kurczak]

FEAR THE CHIPREL
Imagine a barrage of 10 rockets heading your way
Also, bombardier is an honorable mention.

Spamming kraken's ult could be quite fun too
valkyrie is quite LOL too, leap over half the map

[[Hsf]Baiocco]

why when i create this map i stay in REMOTE GAME STARTING all time??