Concede with 4 votes after 25 minuts must be allowed

[[SERB]laserburn]

Some of the S2 members hinted that this is being considered, but nothing has happened since.

The level of griefing teammates through refusing to concede a clearly lost game in MM mode has gone off the charts lately. Nearly 4 out of 5 games played there is always some wise guy who refuses to end the game, usually just to spite the others.

Let me offer some numbers. Out of 43 MM games that I've played since the new MM has been implemented, I've lost 23, out of which 15 by concession. I've voted for concede 55 times altogether, not even one of which was in the game we ended up winning. In 8 games team would not concede at all, in other 9 concede came very late, long after the winner was clear.

The most annoying thing is that it's usually the worst player in the team that won't concede, the one most guilty that a team lost in the first place. So others end up losing half an hour in a lost game, getting farmed, getting frustrated. The last game I finally couldn't take it any more and just quit (after which the retarded brown Scout who wouldn't concede proceeded to feed my hero to the enemy for another 15 minutes).

This is getting ridicules. One player can bully the other 4 in his team and can't be banned for that. It has got to go.

[[MIDZ]NubbyMcNub]

I'd say 25 mins is too early and it'd be better to simply have a 4/4 kick vote.

No. Honestly, you should just stop giving up so easily. I've been in plenty of games where 4/5 wanted to concede but eventually won anyway. Of course you lose most games where there's one person who refuses to concede - you've already given up by that time and you won't even try to win.

[[SERB]laserburn]

No. Honestly, you should just stop giving up so easily. I've been in plenty of games where 4/5 wanted to concede but eventually won anyway. Of course you lose most games where there's one person who refuses to concede - you've already given up by that time and you won't even try to win.

Says a guy whose favorite hero is Scout. Most times when one player won't concede, he plays Scout.

I can count on the fingers of one hand games which our team won after not passing a concede where 4 guys voted yes. But I've played hundreds of games where one retard was grieving his team, here is a very fresh example from last night:
http://replays.heroesofnewerth.com/m...p?mid=26307610

Refusing to concede is the easiest way to grief and it won't even get you banned. People are helpless against griefers, that needs to change so that people would measure their words and actions, leading to better behavior in game.

[[SERB]laserburn]

Thank you S2, it was a very good decision.

[Ryuukun]

Stop despairing.
4/5 concede is always stupid.