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    What ISN'T a Top Pick?

    I'm not trying to be sarcastic with the title. I seriously do not know what are good competitive picks here? I have looked up top picks in DotA, but I know this isn't exactly the same. So, what are a couple of top picks and bad picks?

    I know that Dark Lady is NOT a top pick haha.




    -If there was already a thread about this, I searched, and could not find one if there was one.

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    Omg you picked Chronos we are boned

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    Dark lady is picked very rarly, she needs to be buffed , add some passive or rework her ulti.
    Ophelia is also rare pick, she is hard to play hero :]

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    I'll probably get flack for this.

    Ophelia
    Blacksmith
    Wretched Hag (yes, she can gank, but other people can gank better)
    Dark Lady (yes, she can carry, etc., but other people can carry better)
    Chronos
    Hammerstorm (yes, he can deal damage, but other people can damage better)
    Armadon (yes, he can tank, but other people can tank better)

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    It largely depends on the game size and tier; Behemoth is godlike in a 5v5 public game with lots of crouded fights. Dark Lady is amazing endgame if you have an organised team that have allowed you to farm & you know when to use her ultimate. Chronos is actually one of the most powerful heroes ingame if you farm money on him, but he needs a lot of babysitting early on. And scout is an instant-loss if you're fighting team vs team and let it get to end game: it's like playing 4 vs 5 because he's so squishy and wards/dust instantly counter him.

    Basically, what I'm trying to say is, most heroes have their uses depending on what fight you put them in, and in what stage of the game you are in. Agility carries are often countered by ranged characters early on in the match when they cant afford to let creeps hit them.
    Last edited by Dilligaf; 09-10-2009 at 11:25 AM.

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    Bad Picks:
    Scout
    Dark Lady
    Chronos
    Wildsoul
    Magebane

    Mediocre Picks:
    Hammerstorm
    Pharaoh
    Kraken
    Night Hound
    Predator
    Blood Hunter*
    Keeper of the Forest
    Andromeda
    Devourer
    Zephyr

    Borderline Top Picks:
    Torturer
    Wretched Hag
    War Beast
    Pollywog
    Ophelia
    Armadon
    Blacksmith
    Pebbles
    Glacius*
    Slither
    Jester
    Accursed

    Top Picks:
    Madman*
    Succubus
    Soul Stealer*
    Puppet Master
    Pestilence
    Magmus
    Hellbringer
    Electrician*
    Demented Shaman
    Defiler
    Arachna
    Valkyrie
    Tempest
    Thunderbringer
    Swiftblade
    Pyromancer
    Nymphora
    Moon Queen
    Legionnaire
    Jereziah
    Behemoth

    Generally Top picks work and contribute in almost any team and are incredibly good at what they do throughout the game.

    Borderline picks are more specific, good heroes that rely on teamwork or special lineups to dominate and have an impact on.

    Mediocre picks are okay picks individually, but often contribute little to the team or get countered too easily to provide strong benefit.

    Bad picks are just garbage heroes except when fed...
    Last edited by dreamex; 09-10-2009 at 04:54 PM.

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    Magebane, worst hero in the game.

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    whats wrong with torturer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzzzz View Post
    whats wrong with torturer?
    He gets outclassed too easily and he's way too squish :\

    I should've put a star next to him too actually. Stars are really heroes that can excel very quickly if they have a few good breaks or favourable lineups.

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    Chronos and Magebane.

    i cry when people pick them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamex View Post
    He gets outclassed too easily and he's way too squish :\

    I should've put a star next to him too actually. Stars are really heroes that can excel very quickly if they have a few good breaks or favourable lineups.
    ok thanks for explaining.

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    At least explain why you think a hero is bad.....b/c they can all rape just depends how good the player is and for all you NON-DOTA players everyone can dominate everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeppew View Post
    Chronos and Magebane.

    i cry when people pick them.
    Actually, Chronos is unstoppable if he gets late game (which is very hard to manage unless its EM) so not all is lost. Magebane is also good late game but generally pretty weak so I would always go Chronos over Magebane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Need View Post
    Actually, Chronos is unstoppable if he gets late game (which is very hard to manage unless its EM) so not all is lost. Magebane is also good late game but generally pretty weak so I would always go Chronos over Magebane.
    they need to farm for more minutes than the games usually last, other heroes will accomplish much more with much less in lategame.

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    kidding me? magebane worst pick? learn how 2 play with it and dont blame yourself. magebane its a good pick against any hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pntaooo View Post
    kidding me? magebane worst pick? learn how 2 play with it and dont blame yourself. magebane its a good pick against any hero.
    I don't want to bring up experience or PSR or level of play.

    But Magebane is widely considered one of the weakest heroes in the game by most competitive folks and his only saving grace that has seen him be picked in the last YEAR of DotA is that he can safely solo push side lanes with a Runed Axe while his team pushes together by virtue of having the best escape mechanisms.

    He's the worst pick because he is very mediocre unless extremely farmed/fed and most games at more competitive brackets tend to end before that happens. Same with Chronos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pntaooo View Post
    kidding me? magebane worst pick? learn how 2 play with it and dont blame yourself. magebane its a good pick against any hero.
    Imagine Anti-Mage from DotA who is essentially never picked in competitive play. Now nerf his mana burn and attack animation. That is why he's terrible.

    Learn about game mechanics.

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    In pub games, i feel unsecure when my teammates pick

    scout : will he teamplay? level eye?

    dark lady : will he be good enough to farm early mid game?

    chronos : same.

    Tree : god i hate this hero, what can he do beside throwing his ult once every 2 minutes?

    ophelia : obvious, will he succeed at multitasking? even so, it means we need 1. real teamplay, 2. to end the game quite fast. Not so certain in public.

    zephyr : omg i hate this guy the most. Does nothing but farm all game long, don't help in lane, don't help in ganks.

    hammestorm : sucky hero, can't do anything on his own.

    wretched fag : mediocre hero, but doesnt get picked by bad players in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murlox View Post
    zephyr : omg i hate this guy the most. Does nothing but farm all game long, don't help in lane, don't help in ganks.
    But that's the point. He's an incredibly strong farmer, and if allowed to farm undisturbed, he rises out of the jungle extremely strong.

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