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Now i almost dominate whoever i play against in mid with Keeper, but yesterday i was up against a devourer. A not so skillful devourer at that and he still managed to kill me twice in lane. I try to harass him every time he comes to nab creep kills, but the rot + hook is too much damage for me to confront up close. Any tips?
- Your armour + base damage > his armour + base damage.
This means if you trade hit for hit he has to back off first.
- He doesnt have extra magic armour early and smaller healthpool.
He suffers more from rot
- You have more strength and built in health regen so better for long hauls
- Higher base damage > More creeps = More gold
This means that if he tries anything, you will win if you keep just hitting him till he has to back off, as long as you keep the armour up. Dodge hooks to win. Even hooks arent bad if they dont take you to tower because its physical damage. As long as you play equally as agressive as he does you will be fine, you will only die if you play defensively as he gets more hits in then you do.
Last edited by yyr_; 11-07-2010 at 05:56 AM. Reason: pro editing skillz
But you're forgetting that when we are trading blows and he has rot on i cant dodge the hook. Its the hook that kills me in the end. Here is the scenario: he comes over to get creep kils with about half life left, i have about 3/4, we trade blows, he activates rot, he is about to die, i have about 20% hp left, he hooks, i get stunned for a sec, he autoattacks one time and finishes me off. The outcome is really close, the 2 times that dev killed me he had like maybe 40 or 30 hp left. Its the extra true damage from that hook that is messing me up.Originally Posted by yyr_
Hook deals physical damage so is reduced from your massive armour. As he levels his hook you also gain armour. If your trading blows you should kill him pretty much ever time. Also if your going mid every second level your getting +5-6 strength which is over 100hp which is the damage of hook each time its leveled.
Did you had a shield at the start?Btw you can get all creeps at the start then get a mystic vestment at the 2 min mark , shoulda completly counter him at the early phase.
You shouldn't lose that under any circumstances unless you're taking hits from the tower.
don't take damage from the creeps in lane - catapults/ ranged, etc
- don't start fights where you're going toe to toe and he has 2 catapults, 3 archers behind him and you have nothing.
- don't ever be 'naked without your armor'
- keep hp up and you'll win all 1 v 1 fights with him.
http://i.imgur.com/b4FBB.png
Don't send keeper mid. He's a useless hero who's only job is to stop another heroes farm(focus on denies over kills) vs someone like devo who needs about 1450 gold to be good he makes no sense. Send keeper mid bs heroes like ss hag flint and other farm dependent low dmg heroes.
1400*
I hope to god you mean Striders and Bottle, and not steamboots -.-
I would think he means Striders and Blood Chalice which would be 1450 gold I believe
Striders and chalice is all devo needs, bottle is an extra.
actually their magic damage hurt u more than what ever devourer could possibly do
OP you must be missing something, root gives u enough armor, and you can auto atack him and since rot makes same damage to him, and you auto-atack harder he should lose, unless you start the fight with less hp, that happens when u underestimate him, try to stay full hp, so when he hooks you you are around 70% and just autoatack him, he cant win against that, and if his phys is really hurting you that much, get a :HelmOfTheVictim:, and for the hp send the monkey with some runes of blight/potions, and you should be fine
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