Cam distance change in recent patch

[RenoFox]

Keep in mind I've been playing DotA for over 4 years, and have played over 350+ games of HoN. I love this game and am only thinking of HoN's best interest.

Yes I believe that setting a limit is a good idea do not get me wrong. But the limit is far too low, yes you want to stay faithful to DotA, but DotA is out dated in may departments do to restrictions of resolutions and graphics. Please don't follow those restrictions (not talking about how you can make the game zoom out in wc3 but the resolution and the effects of resolutions on zoom)

DotA's settings are optimised for a 1024 x 768 game play. Are you planing on having 1024 x 768 as the competitive resolution? Are we living in the past? I'm very sure this game will last for a long time, and it should be optimised for the coming years.So tell me where you got 1650 from, how does that related to the current situation, or are we still talking about 1024 x 768/the past/ we're making DotA not HoN?

Having 1900-2100 as the default camera distance is much more realistic in 2009+

No one's been complain about the gold because it's fine. or complaining about the exp because there are options for that easy mode(EM) Your examples are slightly irrelevant. And this is nothing like an exploit/hack if it is the default, please remember that. It's not cheating if it is the way the game is made. No one here is asking for cheats/hacks, they're asking for a reasonable feature that will help the game in the long run.

And I really don't think that saying but some people still play this on 800 x 600, so we should make the cam max low. This game should not be made to provide for the lower end. What you're effectively doing is saying hey guys, shame on you guys for spending so much on your computers! We don't care about the competitive players with better computers, because in official leagues people will be using p4 with 2gigs or ram and a 15" monitor. If you want to make this game catered slightly more for the e-sports market would it not be smarter to have a modern zoom distance?

Please reconsider the current max zoom, it's not considered an advantage if everyone can use it, don't penalise people just because they have a better computer then the 13yo kid down the road. But even then lower end computers can still use say 2000 max camera distance.

And if equipment is considered an 'advantage' why can we bind skills/items to special buttons? Should you ban mouses with more then a left click, right click and a scroll wheel? Why even support wide screen, isn't that an 'advantage' having a decent screen? You do it because it's 2009.

What annoys me is they're fixing things that people enjoy (this and the 14 vs 14), the things that screw up the game play. But they don't bother with other things that have been mentioned 100's of times that actually effect every game eg. Enchanted Marchers, Portal stones, balance issues.

What are you doing to us s2? Stop breaking our balls! You use to be cool...
Just remember this is HoN, the way of the future, not DotA the past ( a great one at that, but still the past.)

Yes make it the same for everyone, but make it more then 1650, Everyone can use 2000 or 1850. Yes DotA was great, but come on, does no one else think it's out dated? Lets improver on DotA not just do what ever it did. This isn't dota, it's HoN it's better.

With these reasons, Starcraft 2 should have the same resolution and zoom as Starcraft 1.

So what's the max resolution people can use in competitions, because it does make a difference. Do you guys also tell then what equipment they can use?

I love Heroes of Newerth, please do it justice.

Thanks for reading, RenoFox.

__________________

[Skunkjuice]

Keep in mind I've been playing DotA for over 4 years, and have played over 350+ games of HoN. I love this game and am only thinking of HoN's best interest.

Yes I believe that setting a limit is a good idea do not get me wrong. But the limit is far too low, yes you want to stay faithful to DotA, but DotA is out dated in may departments do to restrictions of resolutions and graphics. Please don't follow those restrictions (not talking about how you can make the game zoom out in wc3 but the resolution and the effects of resolutions on zoom)

DotA's settings are optimised for a 1024 x 768 game play. Are you planing on having 1024 x 768 as the competitive resolution? Are we living in the past? I'm very sure this game will last for a long time, and it should be optimised for the coming years.So tell me where you got 1650 from, how does that related to the current situation, or are we still talking about 1024 x 768/the past/ we're making DotA not HoN?

Having 1900-2100 as the default camera distance is much more realistic in 2009+

No one's been complain about the gold because it's fine. or complaining about the exp because there are options for that easy mode(EM) Your examples are slightly irrelevant. And this is nothing like an exploit/hack if it is the default, please remember that. It's not cheating if it is the way the game is made. No one here is asking for cheats/hacks, they're asking for a reasonable feature that will help the game in the long run.

And I really don't think that saying but some people still play this on 800 x 600, so we should make the cam max low. This game should not be made to provide for the lower end. What you're effectively doing is saying hey guys, shame on you guys for spending so much on your computers! We don't care about the competitive players with better computers, because in official leagues people will be using p4 with 2gigs or ram and a 15" monitor. If you want to make this game catered slightly more for the e-sports market would it not be smarter to have a modern zoom distance?

Please reconsider the current max zoom, it's not considered an advantage if everyone can use it, don't penalise people just because they have a better computer then the 13yo kid down the road. But even then lower end computers can still use say 2000 max camera distance.

And if equipment is considered an 'advantage' why can we bind skills/items to special buttons? Should you ban mouses with more then a left click, right click and a scroll wheel? Why even support wide screen, isn't that an 'advantage' having a decent screen? You do it because it's 2009.

What annoys me is they're fixing things that people enjoy (this and the 14 vs 14), the things that screw up the game play. But they don't bother with other things that have been mentioned 100's of times that actually effect every game eg. Enchanted Marchers, Portal stones, balance issues.

What are you doing to us s2? Stop breaking our balls! You use to be cool...
Just remember this is HoN, the way of the future, not DotA the past ( a great one at that, but still the past.)

Yes make it the same for everyone, but make it more then 1650, Everyone can use 2000 or 1850. Yes DotA was great, but come on, does no one else think it's out dated? Lets improver on DotA not just do what ever it did. This isn't dota, it's HoN it's better.

With these reasons, Starcraft 2 should have the same resolution and zoom as Starcraft 1.

So what's the max resolution people can use in competitions, because it does make a difference. Do you guys also tell then what equipment they can use?

I love Heroes of Newerth, please do it justice.

Thanks for reading, RenoFox.

best post ever. bump and support PLEASE VOTE!

[Fitzfuchs]

Keep in mind I've been playing DotA for over 4 years, and have played over 350+ games of HoN. I love this game and am only thinking of HoN's best interest.

Yes I believe that setting a limit is a good idea do not get me wrong. But the limit is far too low, yes you want to stay faithful to DotA, but DotA is out dated in may departments do to restrictions of resolutions and graphics. Please don't follow those restrictions (not talking about how you can make the game zoom out in wc3 but the resolution and the effects of resolutions on zoom)

DotA's settings are optimised for a 1024 x 768 game play. Are you planing on having 1024 x 768 as the competitive resolution? Are we living in the past? I'm very sure this game will last for a long time, and it should be optimised for the coming years.So tell me where you got 1650 from, how does that related to the current situation, or are we still talking about 1024 x 768/the past/ we're making DotA not HoN?

Having 1900-2100 as the default camera distance is much more realistic in 2009+

No one's been complain about the gold because it's fine. or complaining about the exp because there are options for that easy mode(EM) Your examples are slightly irrelevant. And this is nothing like an exploit/hack if it is the default, please remember that. It's not cheating if it is the way the game is made. No one here is asking for cheats/hacks, they're asking for a reasonable feature that will help the game in the long run.

And I really don't think that saying but some people still play this on 800 x 600, so we should make the cam max low. This game should not be made to provide for the lower end. What you're effectively doing is saying hey guys, shame on you guys for spending so much on your computers! We don't care about the competitive players with better computers, because in official leagues people will be using p4 with 2gigs or ram and a 15" monitor. If you want to make this game catered slightly more for the e-sports market would it not be smarter to have a modern zoom distance?

Please reconsider the current max zoom, it's not considered an advantage if everyone can use it, don't penalise people just because they have a better computer then the 13yo kid down the road. But even then lower end computers can still use say 2000 max camera distance.

And if equipment is considered an 'advantage' why can we bind skills/items to special buttons? Should you ban mouses with more then a left click, right click and a scroll wheel? Why even support wide screen, isn't that an 'advantage' having a decent screen? You do it because it's 2009.

What annoys me is they're fixing things that people enjoy (this and the 14 vs 14), the things that screw up the game play. But they don't bother with other things that have been mentioned 100's of times that actually effect every game eg. Enchanted Marchers, Portal stones, balance issues.

What are you doing to us s2? Stop breaking our balls! You use to be cool...
Just remember this is HoN, the way of the future, not DotA the past ( a great one at that, but still the past.)

Yes make it the same for everyone, but make it more then 1650, Everyone can use 2000 or 1850. Yes DotA was great, but come on, does no one else think it's out dated? Lets improver on DotA not just do what ever it did. This isn't dota, it's HoN it's better.

With these reasons, Starcraft 2 should have the same resolution and zoom as Starcraft 1.

So what's the max resolution people can use in competitions, because it does make a difference. Do you guys also tell then what equipment they can use?

I love Heroes of Newerth, please do it justice.

Thanks for reading, RenoFox.

/signed

[Skunkjuice]

bump for justice

[[FSTD]Ass_Fister]

terrible default ... if they like to have it like in dota why not clone dota in every aspect ?!
i dont think its an advatage just more awareness ... its crap with the latest patch so i wont be playing until further modification of the cam distance ...

[[OPN]HONsoL0]

please fix this wow....for people with 30inch monitors this change is well...unbearable

[abgeschmatzt]

Keep in mind I've been playing DotA for over 4 years, and have played over 350+ games of HoN. I love this game and am only thinking of HoN's best interest.

Yes I believe that setting a limit is a good idea do not get me wrong. But the limit is far too low, yes you want to stay faithful to DotA, but DotA is out dated in may departments do to restrictions of resolutions and graphics. Please don't follow those restrictions (not talking about how you can make the game zoom out in wc3 but the resolution and the effects of resolutions on zoom)

DotA's settings are optimised for a 1024 x 768 game play. Are you planing on having 1024 x 768 as the competitive resolution? Are we living in the past? I'm very sure this game will last for a long time, and it should be optimised for the coming years.So tell me where you got 1650 from, how does that related to the current situation, or are we still talking about 1024 x 768/the past/ we're making DotA not HoN?

Having 1900-2100 as the default camera distance is much more realistic in 2009+

No one's been complain about the gold because it's fine. or complaining about the exp because there are options for that easy mode(EM) Your examples are slightly irrelevant. And this is nothing like an exploit/hack if it is the default, please remember that. It's not cheating if it is the way the game is made. No one here is asking for cheats/hacks, they're asking for a reasonable feature that will help the game in the long run.

And I really don't think that saying but some people still play this on 800 x 600, so we should make the cam max low. This game should not be made to provide for the lower end. What you're effectively doing is saying hey guys, shame on you guys for spending so much on your computers! We don't care about the competitive players with better computers, because in official leagues people will be using p4 with 2gigs or ram and a 15" monitor. If you want to make this game catered slightly more for the e-sports market would it not be smarter to have a modern zoom distance?

Please reconsider the current max zoom, it's not considered an advantage if everyone can use it, don't penalise people just because they have a better computer then the 13yo kid down the road. But even then lower end computers can still use say 2000 max camera distance.

And if equipment is considered an 'advantage' why can we bind skills/items to special buttons? Should you ban mouses with more then a left click, right click and a scroll wheel? Why even support wide screen, isn't that an 'advantage' having a decent screen? You do it because it's 2009.

What annoys me is they're fixing things that people enjoy (this and the 14 vs 14), the things that screw up the game play. But they don't bother with other things that have been mentioned 100's of times that actually effect every game eg. Enchanted Marchers, Portal stones, balance issues.

What are you doing to us s2? Stop breaking our balls! You use to be cool...
Just remember this is HoN, the way of the future, not DotA the past ( a great one at that, but still the past.)

Yes make it the same for everyone, but make it more then 1650, Everyone can use 2000 or 1850. Yes DotA was great, but come on, does no one else think it's out dated? Lets improver on DotA not just do what ever it did. This isn't dota, it's HoN it's better.

With these reasons, Starcraft 2 should have the same resolution and zoom as Starcraft 1.

So what's the max resolution people can use in competitions, because it does make a difference. Do you guys also tell then what equipment they can use?

I love Heroes of Newerth, please do it justice.

Thanks for reading, RenoFox.

__________________

/FQFT

[Sunforger]

Today I'll be looking for ways to go around the restriction: modifying configs, internal files, memory hacking. I'll have to stop playing if I don't find a way

[ubidat]

Keep in mind I've been playing DotA for over 4 years, and have played over 350+ games of HoN. I love this game and am only thinking of HoN's best interest.

Yes I believe that setting a limit is a good idea do not get me wrong. But the limit is far too low, yes you want to stay faithful to DotA, but DotA is out dated in may departments do to restrictions of resolutions and graphics. Please don't follow those restrictions (not talking about how you can make the game zoom out in wc3 but the resolution and the effects of resolutions on zoom)

DotA's settings are optimised for a 1024 x 768 game play. Are you planing on having 1024 x 768 as the competitive resolution? Are we living in the past? I'm very sure this game will last for a long time, and it should be optimised for the coming years.So tell me where you got 1650 from, how does that related to the current situation, or are we still talking about 1024 x 768/the past/ we're making DotA not HoN?

Having 1900-2100 as the default camera distance is much more realistic in 2009+

No one's been complain about the gold because it's fine. or complaining about the exp because there are options for that easy mode(EM) Your examples are slightly irrelevant. And this is nothing like an exploit/hack if it is the default, please remember that. It's not cheating if it is the way the game is made. No one here is asking for cheats/hacks, they're asking for a reasonable feature that will help the game in the long run.

And I really don't think that saying but some people still play this on 800 x 600, so we should make the cam max low. This game should not be made to provide for the lower end. What you're effectively doing is saying hey guys, shame on you guys for spending so much on your computers! We don't care about the competitive players with better computers, because in official leagues people will be using p4 with 2gigs or ram and a 15" monitor. If you want to make this game catered slightly more for the e-sports market would it not be smarter to have a modern zoom distance?

Please reconsider the current max zoom, it's not considered an advantage if everyone can use it, don't penalise people just because they have a better computer then the 13yo kid down the road. But even then lower end computers can still use say 2000 max camera distance.

And if equipment is considered an 'advantage' why can we bind skills/items to special buttons? Should you ban mouses with more then a left click, right click and a scroll wheel? Why even support wide screen, isn't that an 'advantage' having a decent screen? You do it because it's 2009.

What annoys me is they're fixing things that people enjoy (this and the 14 vs 14), the things that screw up the game play. But they don't bother with other things that have been mentioned 100's of times that actually effect every game eg. Enchanted Marchers, Portal stones, balance issues.

What are you doing to us s2? Stop breaking our balls! You use to be cool...
Just remember this is HoN, the way of the future, not DotA the past ( a great one at that, but still the past.)

Yes make it the same for everyone, but make it more then 1650, Everyone can use 2000 or 1850. Yes DotA was great, but come on, does no one else think it's out dated? Lets improver on DotA not just do what ever it did. This isn't dota, it's HoN it's better.

With these reasons, Starcraft 2 should have the same resolution and zoom as Starcraft 1.

So what's the max resolution people can use in competitions, because it does make a difference. Do you guys also tell then what equipment they can use?

I love Heroes of Newerth, please do it justice.

Thanks for reading, RenoFox.

__________________

Bump + /signed !

-ubi

[Mr_Kzimir]

Give them their mod if they want it.
As long it's an optional game feature it's fine with me

[[R3G]RogueR]

It's fine the way it is

[t3s3r]

Give them their mod if they want it.
As long it's an optional game feature it's fine with me

ye in next patch m sure S2 is pretty fast

[[TGCH]_RaZieL_]

Give them their mod if they want it.
As long it's an optional game feature it's fine with me

and if you want to limit it, make it an advanced option, i dont really care one way or the other, since im used to 1650

[EMPFireStorm]

like i said in the discussion about this, the UI option needs to be to LIMIT the zoom, the DEFAULT need to be between 1900 and 2300 and the UI option needs to be able to limit it down to smaller if needed, thus making the fact that people still wouldnt know about the option invalid, the poll can still retain its options with this slight alteration

Support a higher camera today, VOTE UI OPTION

[[DeMo]Moxy]

Signed !!!!! S2 always had the reputation of listening to its customers, i hope they do now.

[o_OzZ]

Keep in mind I've been playing DotA for over 4 years, and have played over 350+ games of HoN. I love this game and am only thinking of HoN's best interest.

Yes I believe that setting a limit is a good idea do not get me wrong. But the limit is far too low, yes you want to stay faithful to DotA, but DotA is out dated in may departments do to restrictions of resolutions and graphics. Please don't follow those restrictions (not talking about how you can make the game zoom out in wc3 but the resolution and the effects of resolutions on zoom)

DotA's settings are optimised for a 1024 x 768 game play. Are you planing on having 1024 x 768 as the competitive resolution? Are we living in the past? I'm very sure this game will last for a long time, and it should be optimised for the coming years.So tell me where you got 1650 from, how does that related to the current situation, or are we still talking about 1024 x 768/the past/ we're making DotA not HoN?

Having 1900-2100 as the default camera distance is much more realistic in 2009+

No one's been complain about the gold because it's fine. or complaining about the exp because there are options for that easy mode(EM) Your examples are slightly irrelevant. And this is nothing like an exploit/hack if it is the default, please remember that. It's not cheating if it is the way the game is made. No one here is asking for cheats/hacks, they're asking for a reasonable feature that will help the game in the long run.

And I really don't think that saying but some people still play this on 800 x 600, so we should make the cam max low. This game should not be made to provide for the lower end. What you're effectively doing is saying hey guys, shame on you guys for spending so much on your computers! We don't care about the competitive players with better computers, because in official leagues people will be using p4 with 2gigs or ram and a 15" monitor. If you want to make this game catered slightly more for the e-sports market would it not be smarter to have a modern zoom distance?

Please reconsider the current max zoom, it's not considered an advantage if everyone can use it, don't penalise people just because they have a better computer then the 13yo kid down the road. But even then lower end computers can still use say 2000 max camera distance.

And if equipment is considered an 'advantage' why can we bind skills/items to special buttons? Should you ban mouses with more then a left click, right click and a scroll wheel? Why even support wide screen, isn't that an 'advantage' having a decent screen? You do it because it's 2009.

What annoys me is they're fixing things that people enjoy (this and the 14 vs 14), the things that screw up the game play. But they don't bother with other things that have been mentioned 100's of times that actually effect every game eg. Enchanted Marchers, Portal stones, balance issues.

What are you doing to us s2? Stop breaking our balls! You use to be cool...
Just remember this is HoN, the way of the future, not DotA the past ( a great one at that, but still the past.)

Yes make it the same for everyone, but make it more then 1650, Everyone can use 2000 or 1850. Yes DotA was great, but come on, does no one else think it's out dated? Lets improver on DotA not just do what ever it did. This isn't dota, it's HoN it's better.

With these reasons, Starcraft 2 should have the same resolution and zoom as Starcraft 1.

So what's the max resolution people can use in competitions, because it does make a difference. Do you guys also tell then what equipment they can use?

I love Heroes of Newerth, please do it justice.

Thanks for reading, RenoFox.

__________________

Brilliant! I beg..please make this option for all of us.

[VeMeth]

This Poll is nice, I hope those 262 (time of the post) also quit the game. 262 whinekiddies less.

Yeah, I would like them to revert the change back.

[waspeh]

Keep in mind I've been playing DotA for over 4 years, and have played over 350+ games of HoN. I love this game and am only thinking of HoN's best interest.

Yes I believe that setting a limit is a good idea do not get me wrong. But the limit is far too low, yes you want to stay faithful to DotA, but DotA is out dated in may departments do to restrictions of resolutions and graphics. Please don't follow those restrictions (not talking about how you can make the game zoom out in wc3 but the resolution and the effects of resolutions on zoom)

DotA's settings are optimised for a 1024 x 768 game play. Are you planing on having 1024 x 768 as the competitive resolution? Are we living in the past? I'm very sure this game will last for a long time, and it should be optimised for the coming years.So tell me where you got 1650 from, how does that related to the current situation, or are we still talking about 1024 x 768/the past/ we're making DotA not HoN?

Having 1900-2100 as the default camera distance is much more realistic in 2009+

No one's been complain about the gold because it's fine. or complaining about the exp because there are options for that easy mode(EM) Your examples are slightly irrelevant. And this is nothing like an exploit/hack if it is the default, please remember that. It's not cheating if it is the way the game is made. No one here is asking for cheats/hacks, they're asking for a reasonable feature that will help the game in the long run.

And I really don't think that saying but some people still play this on 800 x 600, so we should make the cam max low. This game should not be made to provide for the lower end. What you're effectively doing is saying hey guys, shame on you guys for spending so much on your computers! We don't care about the competitive players with better computers, because in official leagues people will be using p4 with 2gigs or ram and a 15" monitor. If you want to make this game catered slightly more for the e-sports market would it not be smarter to have a modern zoom distance?

Please reconsider the current max zoom, it's not considered an advantage if everyone can use it, don't penalise people just because they have a better computer then the 13yo kid down the road. But even then lower end computers can still use say 2000 max camera distance.

And if equipment is considered an 'advantage' why can we bind skills/items to special buttons? Should you ban mouses with more then a left click, right click and a scroll wheel? Why even support wide screen, isn't that an 'advantage' having a decent screen? You do it because it's 2009.

What annoys me is they're fixing things that people enjoy (this and the 14 vs 14), the things that screw up the game play. But they don't bother with other things that have been mentioned 100's of times that actually effect every game eg. Enchanted Marchers, Portal stones, balance issues.

What are you doing to us s2? Stop breaking our balls! You use to be cool...
Just remember this is HoN, the way of the future, not DotA the past ( a great one at that, but still the past.)

Yes make it the same for everyone, but make it more then 1650, Everyone can use 2000 or 1850. Yes DotA was great, but come on, does no one else think it's out dated? Lets improver on DotA not just do what ever it did. This isn't dota, it's HoN it's better.

With these reasons, Starcraft 2 should have the same resolution and zoom as Starcraft 1.

So what's the max resolution people can use in competitions, because it does make a difference. Do you guys also tell then what equipment they can use?

I love Heroes of Newerth, please do it justice.

Thanks for reading, RenoFox.

__________________

/signed

[Karrax]

No problems with the way things are.. Learn to play newbies... friggin whiners all of you