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He guys,
For those of you that didn't watch it and want to hear the most aweful cast i've heard so far...:http://hon.esportmedia.com/video/201...oup-stage-tsog
3 Casters
Breakycpk, being professional, giving good coverage, overall, pretty good job from him, nothing to say about him
But his co-casters, seriously?
Phil: He has no clue of what goes on in the game, no competitive insight, and has the b*lls to to act the way he does, are you out of your mind?
There was NO professionality in that cast from you, the one time you actually did talk about something usefull, you messed up the entire teamfight giving no remarks, not even the right heroes, and no insight.
Quotes:
"There is just so much action" (No you're just behind with coverage about 8 seconds in, since there was NO action when you said that) you're brain needs a couple of seconds to soak up that information doesn't it?
"(Madman) His farm has been abysmal, it's not going to go any better, currently sitting on a bolstering armband, bottle and boots, so he really only effectively made 450 gold in the about 5 minutes."
Look to those numbers, next to the pretty picture, he has 500 in cash. Luckily you can count, cause 950=450 ofcourse. (yes his farm was abysmal, so is Phils vision/counting skills)
"Herpa Derpa Derp, Imma Dark Lady and sitting out my base"
So much for professionality, and good jokes while we're at it
HenryD: In this game, he actually provided us with NO information whatsoever, apart from reading up the radius of a SS ulti... (omg thanks for that! /sarcasm) The only thing he did was licking TSOG's *ss, like he does everytime they're playing... Why would i care that they have a new player (which is not in the game, or benefitted to this cast in anyway) and is not part of their main roster? Thanks for that competitive insight!!!
Quotes:
"No, I'm trying to be mean to keengamer" (because that gives me a bigger Epenis then anyone out there on the internet!!!!)
After Phil saying, what do you do to get back in the game:
"I can tell ya, I can tell ya, you press... eh... there is a... eh... to the right of your screen, there is a little concede button, you press it and you go for anyone" (awkward silences)
"Xane/Insane (or something) who is also an ex-dota player, he played kinda-semi-professionaly, he actually played with Draying in ?mouse sports? when he.. eh... ?created a second team? They're all like that in TsoG everyone is the nicest guy in the world (think thats the 10th time i hear you say that) We should change every time we cast them (them being TSoG) into a... ehm... how much we love them.... Cause, we all love them.... Lets give a random applause for TSoG" (more awkward silence)"
Well, lets give a random applause for Phil of the honcast staff, and HenryD for his "competitive insight"
And, lets have a search for new co-casters while we're at it.
No, i'm not mad, No i'm not w/e you come up with, I'm just saying that a lot of people stop watching honcast/mute it, because breaky doesn't have enough competitive insight (although he is working on that, gj on that) to counter the annoyance brought by his either ignorant or just plain cocky+annoying co-casters.
PS: Breaky, change the intro into: also with us is HenryD for his immature comments
PSS: zan
u mad? you sound like you are. don't like my casts? don't watch em. been down this road about a million times and since you can't do any better step aside and let me handle this sonny. (regards? Phil)
Wether or not you're in the cast is not where i'm watching for, it's for breaky's live action coverage, and because HONcast gives me an update on high end scrims/tourneys, not because you're in there. I don't think ANYONE would even notice you NOT being in the game, apart from the lack of annoyance.
My opinion, incoming spams which i really dont care about, lets see what Phil and HenryD have to say about this... (or breakycpk, but i'm giving him compliments actually)
U mad? No sir!
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either phil and henry dont work good together or 3 casters are just too much
breaky and henry casting the other games was actually great
I honestly don't think Henery knows what professionalism is.
Can people stop doing this please? Everyone tries to project their opinion as one everyone shares when I'm sitting here thinking 'This guy gives too much of a **** about something that he really should stop giving so much of a **** about'I'm just saying that a lot of people stop watching honcast/mute it
It's HoNs version of Fox Newses (sic? I always use that wrongly) 'Some people are saying that you're a paedophile' when it was in fact Fox calling the guy a paedo 20 seconds ago on the previous report.
Start talking in first person or stop whining. ****in' [Insert derogatory plural term here].
Yea that was pretty unprofessional
I agree with OP, i told phil during the cast to leave the action for breaky because he was far behind. He raged and IP banned me... Talk about proffesionalism D:
I'm not going to stop watching honcast because 1 caster is messing up, to be honest the comment you made about "Don't tune in if you don't like it" seemed a bit childish.
If this is honestly the reaction to honest feedback and critisism, you're lucky that you have no competition in casting hon games.
And no breaky, this is not an "IRC troll thread", we are not trolls trying to make phil look bad, try and watch the cast and you'll see.
I've always thought Breaky was crap :P he talks too much crap. His main input in the casts is to inform all the blind ppl whats going on, but thats about it. If you have eyes, Breaky brings nothing
I have quite a lot of people who i talk with on a daily base, and all of them share this feeling, NO exceptions, therefore i feel that i can say that a lot of people stop watching honcast because of the co-casters.Originally Posted by FreudianTrip
At least, i only watch the matches that are most interesting, look at the casters, and then decide to mute or not
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How many people is quite a lot? Most Honcast vods get around 20k hits. Unless you're talking to 200 people daily about the state of Honcast, you're not even 1%. Stop the self-importance plzkthxbai.
The OP wasn't presented very well and some of the quotes were a bit off, but I do agree with what you said. Phil brings nothing to the table other than annoyance, he's bad. Pathetic attitude from somebody that needs to improve his casting, and any critique made towards honcast being regarded as a 'troll' is starting to take the piss.
Get rid of Phil, it won't ruin his life and it will make honcast better. 'dont watch if you dont like it' is as childish as it gets, as well as people being banned from IRC because they're not sucking balls.
I have an issue with this cast anyway, there was no reason to cast this game. It was a replay cast of a stomp. They knew it was a stomp before they casted it and apparently had no interest in the game until after it was over. I'm sure something else could have been covered instead. I like both teams, and the game interested me so I can't say I necessarily blame them for wanting to cover it - but if they knew it was a stomp in advance that's just a bit meh. Seems like another chance to big up TSoG.
The only reason they casted it is because they knew we got stomped and HenryD hates us, if we'd have won that they wouldn't have casted it. HenryD doesn't like us, he told me he'd like to fight nvr at dreamhack winter, lets be fair though he'd get smashed
Thumbs up.
I'll paste the comment I wrote @ Honcast.
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@MrBigHuge I wasn't angry whatsoever for the reason you wrote, and that beeing said no-one was late to the game.
The thing is, we asked early on match day if we could reschedule for a reason i dont wanna state here, is kinda private(but we gave TSoG the reason), we asked to play from 18:00 and before 21:00(the match was scheduled at 22:00) OR on sunday after their match which was at 10:00 AM, and this they said wasnt possible. But it turns out that at 18:00 they scrimmed against a random clan, instead of playing with us against our main 5, so instead we had to play with 2 ringers.
So it is kinda obvious that TSoG just wanted the easy way out, and I really dont understand why everyone is giving TSoG credits for beeing so fair and mannered.
AND HenryD; We listened to the livecast on hon, where breaky asked henryd if they were gonna livecast TSoG vs PYRO, then henryd said "OMG NO, that's keengamer's clan". And some hours later you suddenly wanted to cast the replay, when you already knew that TSoG won the game fairly easy due to our 2 ringers. Seriously henry, I really dont understand whatsoever why breaky would even have you on their vent to cast games, breaky gotta see by now what you really are and that you really just are a troubled young boy. I really dont understand why this game was even casted, it's a mix VS a clan, where you knew the outcome before the game, this was a **** game and should never have been casted.
Would have been awesome if you would cast our rematch someday against TSoG with our main 5.
thanks.
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I agree with this, HenryD....i haven't met ONE person who likes your casting and/or personality. I dont mind phil, im the one being stomped and i found it funny. But henryD was asking to cast it live he said 'no no way am i casting pyro'. Found out we lost then pushed to cast it....hes an ignorant rat
If that was the worst cast ever then great, because I still found it just fine and enjoyed watching it. I don't give a crap about professionalism. I watch to be entertained. Isn't entertainment and education the point of these things? Where does "who can be most professional" come into that? If you can't handle it, lighten up and re-evaluate yourself.
Sometimes the stuff said is odd, or jokes aren't that funny (which is quite common), but I'm fine with that. I even enjoy the quirkiness.
The two things that bother me are mismatched volume levels between casters, and phrases that get used over and over again and usually make little grammatical sense.
PS: I don't want to encourage HenryD's attitude. I think it sucks and he should work on it for his improvement as a person. Pertaining to the casts themselves though, I'm fine with them.
Last edited by bg; 10-10-2010 at 02:07 PM.
Hi,
I have quite enjoyed HenryD's casts in the past.
I don't take any stance on this latest drama though as
I don't know anything about it.
YT: http://www.youtube.com/user/Sc0pee/videos
#1 In the past, HenryD's cast where pretty good, and "everyone" enjoyed it
As of late, his competitive "insight" has changed, into annoying trying-to-be-(and-failing)funny jokes, which no1 really finds funny, and those who find it funny... well, we all know what we think about those
#2 As of the honcast hits, most of 'em dont hit >10k, and yes i have talked to at least a 100 people about this, all (lets say 95%) with a PSR above 1800, so my guess would be that this is group which i can call: a lot.
#3 As far as the PYRO vs TSoG match, that's not really the topic of discussion, sorry to put it like this, but i'm trying to give HenryD (and Phil) an idea of what the community thinks of this, wether the match should be played in the first place is another story.
#4 They actually wanting to cast it because PYRO lost, if this is true, (of which i have no doubt if it's confirmed by several people) I'd like to hear Breakycpk and HenryD about it, and if the agree, well i think I've proven my point. and in case they deny it, it doesnt really prove anything, since they would never publicly admit it, as far as "we" know them.
So, Honcast, where are you, agree with us that you're unprofessional, not funny and should refrain yourself from casting, or since we can't do it better, "should let you handle it, sonny"???
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I like how phil calls out players in a mean way when they are doing terrible, but he himself is terrible.
Anyways i don't think this thread will be of any use because breaky will be like "honcast trolls" and ignore constructive criticism.
I don't know, this thread doesnt target honcast, or him... It targets 2 specific co-casters, and for him to adress this as a troll thread he has to be pretty confident, since so far i've seen enough people agree with me, and also having people that actually have a name in the community, such as asway, nvr, suntouch, keengamer, and i'm sure more will follow, because a lot of people have something to do with this, it's not just being angry at them for being dicks towards someone, it's just their general fail as a caster.
So, i'll keep reminding Honcast, dare to respond?
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Have to agree with him.
In the beginning I really liked HenryD's casting, but as of late he says stuff like 'They should press that button on the top right side of the screen where it says concede'.
I mean, that's neither funny nor constructive nor insightful.
I think breaky + Henry would be a pretty good shoutcasting team with breaky's awesome play-by-play and henry's knowledge, but yeah...
Also breaky calls us bad mannered at the end for not saying GG, if he took us off his ignore list he'd have seen the GGs
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