I get bored of generic cookie cutter builds very quickly so like to trial different builds for heroes. That being said im not claiming to be doing anything crazy or be creating new builds, just give insight to some of the less common builds out there for some heroes that you may not have seen yet.
Some of the builds in this thread may be good, others strange and some just plain crap. These are just some builds i would like to try or have tried with some success. I am not claiming to be the first to have run them.
Feel free to comment on how effective you think they would be or how to improve them, if you have run any other good builds.
This is my current selection of ones to try / i enjoy running.
:chro: - Going bottle/powersupply/ports but playing him as a ganker
- The ward *****.
- Rush Blink.
- Economy Build
- HotBL or SnY + Puzzlebox
- core ---> FWS
Puzzlebox ---> Void if needed ---> Heart
Whispering Helm ---> Puzzlebox
Last edited by yyr_; 10-09-2010 at 02:43 AM.
Stormspirit Torturer ... movespeed doesn't hurt, works well with Impalement, never miss a stun again.
Harkon's Pyromancer ... the manly way to semicarry, not too difficult to farm either with those nice AoE spells.
Also, a pure ganking Chronos should acquire Staff of the Master.
Interesting builds are actually pretty interesting. I wanna try puzzlebox and purgestick :P
Also, the blink+ is something Testie did a week or two back. He did really well, his team didn't. I don't know if it was Testie or the build though.
I wanna give a +1 to harkon's . 1 auto + blow your nukes = dead anybody (really, anybody).
Another purgestick candidate is . Purge + arrow is a guaranteed hit; proceed to kill. If you go on to build a manta from there, you're draining someone's mana really fast.
Imo TB's nuke is better than MQ's, also it scales with the char, unlike MQ.
A semistandard pickup on mq when going on ulti is shroud and thats just a poor mans PK, try it but i wouldnt bet on it.
Been playing purge TDL a couple times before and its ok if you want to gank, actually its really good, but it takes money away from your main concern, the carriying.
If it works god bless, but if it dosent you pretty much 20 min behind in farm.
Also worthy of note TDL got a boost to her hp, dont know when but i was measuring her hp to that of a enemy magmus and we where close in lane so a ganking TDL might work. all her gimmicks work except theres no 450 where her dmg numbers should be.
Puzzle arachna is actually a sound choice, sometimes even better than the standard builds, you dont even have to ulti the poor fukker, just webb him and rape with minions, that way you have two ultis. Works well if the enemy team is not to beefy.
A ganking magebane should get stats really early like one lvl of blink, max drain and stats till 10 or summin (first lvl of ulti is not that strong if you dont need it to stop early channels) but still a geo is better than puzzle on him, as it gives more than just hp, and as he dosent have a dependable snare.
Ganking chrono is the way to go if you know what you are doing, hes pretty strong and most of his spells have a good early game potential, but still requires you to know how to execute it.
I dont like to afk farm either, so allways go some ganking route with my carrys, it can be done but you need to know what you are doing.
Tanky andro is my adittion to this non standard build thread
Going stun and stats all the way gives her alot of hp + armor and she can really take a pounding, then either thunderclaw, crit, geo, some dmg item and your done.
She as all of the rest of +dmg aura toons, dosent need it early as it adds pitiful amounts of dmg, and since aurora is like an overloaded nuke at only 10 % strenght its not worthi it imo. ( i know what its used for but there are ways aound it so i dont get it)
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Been wanting to try Nullfire on either Swiftblade or Magebane, but really don't like Swiftblade and know there will be rage for getting Nullfire on Magebane.
I've been on a Puzzle Box kick recently and been wanting to try putting it on carry type heroes instead of the standard damage items. Will try next time I play Arachna.
Puzzlebox on ophelia?
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Also to add to the purge list is scout after his cleave. Purge + Eye silence allows you to get those last couple of hits to finish them off without having to blow an orb on sny
With respect to ophelia i having been thinking about a non-creep focused build as her nerf to lvl 2 creep was lame. Something along the lines of getting lvl 1 creep only then maxxing slow and nuke. This doesnt change her nuet farm rate until she reaches level 5. Getting slow at lvl 3 means your creeps now outrun the players. Not maxing creeps means your a more DPS focused as your nuke is leveled faster. Try building her alchemist ---> Phase ---> Hellflower. Hellflower + Slow = MASSIVE damage multiplication. Her pure damage nuke could be hitting for like 600... Also her agi gain is 2.1 which i think makes it the highest agi gain for a non-agi hero. As her int gain is also strong her natural DPS is quite high. Possibly DPS hero waiting to be found.
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Frostwolf Skull on
You remember how it procs on single target spells? 30% slow on a 2 second cooldown (perma)... Long range slow on 7 second cooldown... And seeing as globals also procs Frostwolf: Teamwide 30% slow on your ult. IN ADDITION TO THE -ATTACKSPEED.
I made a thread a while back on Portal Key + Puzzlebox on Arachna. Basically playing her as a ganker as opposed to a hard carry. It's a really, really fun build, definitely worth trying out.
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i want to try the ganker build with chronos just cause he is one of my fav herores... I saw potential for something like that a few weeks ago when we had an inexperienced ally playing as chronos who couldn't really do much. We just told him to time walk into enemies drop chronosphere to initiate and we'd come in and clean up...
What do you mean by ports though? portal key?
Besides if you have money, is it not better to get hex?
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If at all possible, you should not ever make tb the ward whore. He NEEEEEEDS items to stay relevant. Not as much as a carry, but enough to dish out max possible damage.
As for Frostwolf vs. Hex, both are good choices, and should be looked at individually per game to see what your team needs most. Need to disable that carry? God hex. Need more survivability? Make frostwolf. Frostwolf simply gives TB so much health and mana and on top of that gives him a pseudo disable with chain lighting and a global slow with his ult.
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Geometers Bane + Puzzlebox on Dsham. Force the opponent into a group of units and heal bomb.
And I always try to get a Pkey on Thunderbringer. Cleans up red hps without having to ult. :] And you can nuke and port.