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    Quote Originally Posted by PSRMeansAlot View Post
    Ignorant kiddies and trolls ftw. EU > USA in almost every other game.

    DotA.
    WC3.
    SC2.
    CSS.
    COD4.
    Quake.

    GG WP LOAD. Wanted them to win and although i'm EU, i'm not a racist troll and wanted LOAD to win. MSI are boring and needed a reality check. The competitive scene isn't that hard right now, SK have fallen down, DWi are never able to step up, Empr are inconsistent and the rest aren't worth mentioning.

    Torrentt go L2P before you speak again. Your argument is invalid :S.
    PC gaming has been dead in America for at least 5 years. WoW effectively killed off almost all non console competitive gaming. I don't see how you can make an argument about Quake at all when America is home to that uberdouche Fatal1ty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Thrill View Post
    PC gaming has been dead in America for at least 5 years. WoW effectively killed off almost all non console competitive gaming. I don't see how you can make an argument about Quake at all when America is home to that uberdouche Fatal1ty.
    Uh, how did WoW kill anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Thrill View Post
    . I don't see how you can make an argument about Quake at all when America is home to that uberdouche Fatal1ty.
    And why is that

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoutsider View Post
    And why is that
    Fatal1ty was one of the best Quake players at the time and Rapha is currently the best Quakelive player in the world.

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    Fatal1ty is a super nerd. He barely beat Stermy in the Champs 2007 and Stermy isn't even that good. Overrated when it comes to Quake 3/4.

  6. #86
    No one cares about anything cept QuakeLive nowadays anyways. Point still stands that Rapha is best and American. I lol'd when PSRMeansAlot put CS:S in the list, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSRMeansAlot View Post
    Fatal1ty is a super nerd. He barely beat Stermy in the Champs 2007 and Stermy isn't even that good. Overrated when it comes to Quake 3/4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolapz View Post
    No one cares about anything cept QuakeLive nowadays anyways. Point still stands that Rapha is best and American. I lol'd when PSRMeansAlot put CS:S in the list, though.
    SOURCE IS A TOP NOTCH COMPETITIVE GAME OKAY?

    i laughed so ****ing hard at that oh my god

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolapz View Post
    No one cares about anything cept QuakeLive nowadays anyways. Point still stands that Rapha is best and American. I lol'd when PSRMeansAlot put CS:S in the list, though.
    Arnt cypher, rapha, cooler and av3k considered top 4 at the moment with cypher having the slight edge over the others at the moment winning the last tournament with all 4 aswell as the german guy killsen winning the 2nd last big international tournament over the others?, thats 4/5 europeans with 2 euros winning the last 2 tournaments

    Source isnt huge but euros are definitely ahead in that aswell as 1.6 too
    [16:24] <GG-DocSmoothJew> i'd say try and put minimal effort/funding into nevaTV until dota 2 comes around and then get in with that on the ground floor and rape rape rape the hon community

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asway View Post
    Fatal1ty was one of the best Quake players at the time and Rapha is currently the best Quakelive player in the world.
    Fatal1ty was one of the best Quake players in the US and got destroyed by international competition. (cooller in q3, toxic in q4)
    I'm not saying he wasn't a great player, but the hype is not true, especially if he names himself world champion in 5 different games, where he got one "world title" by a random Doom3 tournament at Quakecon (where nobody took Doom3 seriously, gg).

    Shane/Rapha has won IEM and Quakecon last year and failed the three big important events this year, even dropping out to k1llsen. Best Quakelive player in the world? Because he won EG Masters cup US only? Yes, everyone can have a sloppy performance, especially in a game where the difference in skill between the top notch players is so incredibly small. But Rapha has not been shining a lot 2010
    USA =/= World
    Last edited by theoutsider; 09-13-2010 at 02:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoutsider View Post
    Fatal1ty was one of the best Quake players in the US and got destroyed by international competition. (cooller in q3, toxic in q4)
    I'm not saying he wasn't a great player, but the hype is not true, especially if he names himself world champion in 5 different games, where he got one "world title" by a random Doom3 tournament at Quakecon (where nobody took Doom3 seriously, gg).

    Shane/Rapha has won IEM and Quakecon last year and failed the three big important events this year, even dropping out to k1llsen. Best Quakelive player in the world? Because he won EG Masters cup US only? Yes, everyone can have a sloppy performance, especially in a game where the difference in skill between the top notch players is so incredibly small. But Rapha has not been shining a lot 2010
    USA =/= World
    Rapha's performance this year has been iffy, but that doesn't mean he can still beat anyone he wishes.

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    Stop the sad attacks EU - US....

    I dont understand the sad USA hate against EU and the otherway around. You know we are all humans? Some attacks are even racist and its sad.





    Best team is obvious LOADED at the moment. And guess what, im Eurotrash


    In my newbie view I think TSoG are most fun team too watch with Empr and KD at second place.

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    My performance this year has been iffy, but that doesn't mean I can still beat anyone I wish.

  14. #94
    God damn when will this EU ><>< US bashing/flaming banter stop. Its not about which continent wins, its about which bloody team wins -_-

    Great play by Fuji in every game, don't ignore 2nd game even when 3rd game was just megaraep with Balpha, he went 5/0/15 with WS, which is super impressive.

    On the other hand, n0tail/Bot didn't really deliver at all. n0tail pretty much threw game 1 away soloing mid with a bad build and generally playing bad.
    2nd game I say Load picked pretty cocky and not so good and MSI response was good, but even then, n0tail managed to waste one eye and Bot didn't really do anything. So many missed stuns.
    And in 3rd game, while Bot got absolutely no farm at all AND missed quite a few kills, n0tail finally got his fabled TB and took him to mid, and while he farmed and controlled mid extremely well like he usually does, it didnt lead to anything. No ganks, no phenomenal team fights and most importantly, nothing against balpha.

    Hopefully the iLx happyhappy fun couple of Bot/Nova_/n0tail can finally let Trixi/Fresh voice their opinion and let Trixi draft once again. Fresh back on heroes like Pharaoh/Madman and Trixi on valkyrie/fa etc.

    We can only hope.
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    I honestly don't care about EU vs US. But I will defend players/nationalities if I feel they are accused of being worse at the game when imo they are not.

    That said, I have no problem at all with MSI losing.
    I really liked MSI when they started to use alternative picks, making games super interesting.
    But it gets old fast especially if every game they play the same heroes are picked up and their ganking lineup they had at the beginning (WS on trilane would roam and gank, Tundra mid would roam and gank, solo Pharaoh would roam and gank) develops into a "lets pick ganking heroes but not gank and just protect bot on lane so he can get freefarm and carry the game because it works lolo" kind of strategy.

    I got sick of watching game 2 because it was, imo, complete bullshit. MSI lost every teamfight but bought back immediately (Panda bought back 4 times in game 2, Tundra and Slither bought back in the midst of fights too) so they won the battles while the score remained even. They got (imo) outplayed in team battles by either skill or LOADEDs team synergy, it doesn't really matter, but just bought back to come fresh into the fight, eventually die but in the end the favour would be on their side. (pretty much the same as LOAD vs EMPR GR game 4)

    MSI developed from a fun team to watch to a team that would only use one repetitive strategy every game, and now they got crushed. Hopefully they change - for the pleasure of viewers
    Last edited by theoutsider; 09-13-2010 at 02:55 PM.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Asway View Post
    Rapha's performance this year has been iffy, but that doesn't mean he can still beat anyone he wishes.
    Did you spend time thinking of the dumbest statement possible to reply with?
    [16:24] <GG-DocSmoothJew> i'd say try and put minimal effort/funding into nevaTV until dota 2 comes around and then get in with that on the ground floor and rape rape rape the hon community

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaunnn View Post
    Did you spend time thinking of the dumbest statement possible to reply with?
    you didnt stop reading what he said after the jay z lyrics LOL?

  18. #98
    Too bad Hellbourne won every game, would have liked to see which team is better.

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    Grats to load, these OI guys make the victory even sweeter simply for the trolling on the knuckleheads.

    I mean anytime a euro team wins we have 100 polaks telling us about how great the EU is shouldn't you be painting houses?
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  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    I mean anytime a euro team wins we have 100 polaks telling us about how great the EU is shouldn't you be painting houses?
    All these racist slurs are so sad. Your probebly a chicken **** little kid who wouldent use that language face too face. And no im not polish only irritated on all kids being racist cunts on the internet.

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